18 days later, Astros owner, Drayton McLane, still doesn't get it
If I would have know how prescient it would be when I wrote it, I probably wouldn't have. But I wrote it, and now we have to deal with the fact that Drayton McLane still hasn't figured it out.
$100 million for Carlos Lee. $16.5 million of Kaz Matsui. $800,000 for Cecil Cooper in 2010. Easily $8 million over the last two years on throwaway, scrap heap, rehab projects to fill out the rotation, bullpen, and bench. Taking on two years of Miguel Tejada and Jose Valverde. These are all the investments that Drayton McLane was willing to fund, seemingly no questions asked.
From everything that I've read from everyone who has any access to the Astros front office, Ed Wade, et al. wanted Acta. Acta, by all accounts, wanted to be back with the Astros, but Acta also had his future to look out for, too.
If we were to some how discover what the exact dollar figure on the third year Acta was bargaining for, I'm sure we would collectively slam our heads against our desks/walls/keyboards with so much force that it'd probably register on the richter scale.
It's not that I am/was/will be convinced of the righteousness of Manny Acta. I don't doubt the ability of Brad Mills to be a great manager. I also don't think Phil Garner's rehiring would be the end of the world. Now, I don't think rehiring Garner would be a great thing, because I don't think that Phil Garner was a good manager. He was always an average, to below average guy in my book. I always saw his fate as the fate of something determined by his place at and timing. Were it not for Drayton scrambling for scape goats, I don't doubt that Garner might still be around. We get can into the why's of my thoughts on Garner's managerial capabilities, but it's not the point. It's not what bothers me about this.
What bothers me is this: Drayton McLane continues to show an inability to take intelligent risks, to invest wisely, and trust the people he pays to make sound decisions. We've done a lot of talking about signaling. That's probably because we have too many econ-based readers, but it's the truth none the less.
Garner is a bad signal. He's a bad signal because it shows a lack of willingness to try something new. To push forward and reinvent the team. It's some sort of half-hearted attempt to make an amend to a man who was probably wronged in his firing, but it's the wrong way to make amends. Amend, after all, means to change. Taking Phil Garner back as our manager means that the Astros are going to keep sticking it out in the same "we can win with what we've got" mentality in my mind's eye. Maybe that's incorrect, but I don't think I'm that far off the mark.
Hiring Manny Acta, on the other hand, signals the exact opposite. It signals that the Astros are willing to invest in a young, charismatic, smart, well-liked, manager who could man the helm for years to come. That would be change. Acta seemed like a guy who wasn't worried about bucking convention, and that feels like something this team desperately needs in the next few years.
Instead, yesterday, Astros fans were given a clear signal from Drayton McLane. The signal is that he still doesn't get it. My gut feeling is that he never will. I guess I can't blame him. He got to ride the gravy train of the Bagwell/Biggio years with hometown-hero discounts, cheaper to maintain farm systems, and had the added bonus of a stadium honeymoon period. There was no lesson to be learned.
Thankfully, I assume that he can only go a few more years before he starts looking for potential suitors, and maybe at that time we'll get an owner who stops resting on his laurels, which, in every quote I've ever heard/read Drayton make in the last two or three years, he does. I'll be the first person to admit it: Drayton's been a successful owner. He's given us a great franchise during most of his tenure, and has, at times, spent lavishly. But that doesn't actually make him a great owner. It just makes him an owner who was able to play the hand he was dealt well. The test of greatness, though, is the ability to adapt.
At the end of the day, I get the feeling that this wasn't about the money. Instead, I get the feeling that this was more about philosophy. Drayton McLane's philosophy will continue to dominate baseball operations and thwart the necessary innovation, creativity, and inherent risk-taking that will possibly be necessary for this ball club to be worth the cost of admission in the next few years. It seems like Drayton doesn't see it that way. And that's a real shame—for us.
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Drayton just may of saved me some money for next year
This is definitely a knee jerk reaction but if the season started today I don’t think I’d be investing in an MLBtv package for this upcoming season, which I’ve done since the online service became available.
by Timothy De Block on Oct 26, 2009 7:47 AM CDT reply actions
Whatever you think of Acta....
I don’t think this is working out like the Astros wanted. By making the interview process open and presenting 10 candidates, the Astros hoped to convince fans that they made an intensive search, so that the ultimate selected candidate would appear to be the best of the brightest. Now, fans know that they didn’t sign the candidate they thought was the best, and McLane comes across as a penny pincher. The intended public relations effect of this process kind of backfired on them.
Definitely not
But it was a noble attempt.
The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Oct 26, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
well..
It was only a good idea if they were willing to go the extra mile to secure the candidate they arrived at as the best available.
Refusing to go three years on a managerial deal, after such a public process to narrow the candidates, seems nuts to me.
I'm going to play a conspiracy card here
Tal Smith:
- Garner calls Tal asks him to become a candidate.
- Tal was the communication line between Acta and the Astros, Acta takes Cleveland job.
If Garner is brought back as manager I have to wonder if Tal Smith wasn’t manipulating the communication lines to get HIS guy selected as manager.
by Timothy De Block on Oct 26, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions
the communication here seems pretty simple
Astros: “Two years with a team option.”
Acta: “That sounds cool, but let me see what the Indians say.”
Indians: “Three years with a team option.”
Acta: “Gee, that’s a lot better…”
Astros: “Well, let’s talk to Drayton and see if he’ll give you another year.”
Drayton: “NOW WAIT JUST A COTTON-PICKIN MINUTE I AIN’T SPENDIN’ NO MORE MONEY ON THIS HERE MANAGER IT’S TWO YEARS OR NOTHIN’ IMMA CHAMPION”
Your friendly neighborhood Dream Shake mod.
13 days from what?
Read your comments dying quail…respectfully, it seems everyone blames the owner for the roster from the end of the season to opening day. It is cliche to hear it every year. The fact is, it is Drayton’s money… the return on his investment worked out pretty well. Really, wouldn’t you make the same decisions if you were actually spending over $100 million of your own money?
I think the root of the problem is the pitching. Shouldn’t the blame go to coaches? Bullpen coach, Mark Bailey, 8 seasons as the coach of a lackluster bullpen. Or Dewey Robinson, 13 years as the pitching coach. Are they really teaching A-list pitchers anything new? Do you see any new pitching strategies in the last decade? No, we need change in the coaches, not the owner.
We also don’t use the Triple A pitchers enough. If you want to talk about a waste of money, it is in paying the same big names like Oswalt, Hampton,Clemens to throw a marginally good game each time. I think if we had new, hungry talent from somewhere other then Round Rock we would win more ballgames for less money. It is always cost effective to change up the pitchers so the baters don’t know what to expect.
So Quail, don’t shoot Drayton to save the new season, we need to clean out the bullpen to move forward.
13 days from the link after the first paragraph
That should probably have been more explicit.
Yes, I am likely just doing that overly cliché thing were fans lambast their owners after a poor season. But i also did this at the end of 2008, and that was good season.
I get that it’s Drayton’s money, and they he can shore it up how ever he wants to, but he’s not doing a good job of it. ROI? Attendance was the worst it’s been in years? Advertising bucks are down, and there’s no reason to invest in advertising for a team that’s bad. Drayton lost money this year, it seems like, and will likely lose it next year, too.
My critique above, and always, of Drayton McLane has never been that he doesn’t spend money, but that he doesn’t spend it well. I know I have no control over how he choses to spend it, but I don’t think that makes it unfair of me to wish that he’d spend it wisely.
He has meddled in baseball operations too many times in the last few years regarding how much, and upon whom, money will be spent, and it’s blowing up in face. We have zero room for investing in pitching if he keeps drawing the line on payroll where it’s at. Even if you gave this pitching staff to Manzone, I doubt he’d have gotten much out of Hampton, Ortiz, and Moehler, so what’s the point in deflecting all the criticism towards Robinson, et al.?
As for the bullpen, I blame Coop for that this year.
This is not to say that there aren’t other areas of our baseball operations that shouldn’t have criticisms hurled at them, but that they’re ancillary to this, the largest road block to the Astros success.
The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Oct 26, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Ultimately it’s the man at the top who takes the blame for the short comings of the organization.
The players account for how well they play, the coaches account for how well the players play, The GM accounts for the production of the coaching staff and players, the owner accounts for how well the organization is run. Why? Cause he’s the one signing the checks and signing off on the decisions made. With great power comes great responsibility. In the Astros organization the man with the greatest power is Drayton McLane.
by Timothy De Block on Oct 26, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Annnnnnnnnnnnnndddddddddd
I just realized what a bone-headed error I made. 18 days later.
The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Oct 26, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Seems like Ed doesn't have complete control
I was starting to think maybe Drayton was backing off and was going to let the GM do his job. If Manny Acta was the guy that Ed Wade and Tal Smith wanted, our general manager should have been able to go to the team owner and say “this is the guy we want to run our team. He’s got the skills to manage and we believe he can turn this thing around. He needs to be here long term to see this through.” But Drayton said no to an extra year and thats that. I hope Drayton doesn’t turn into MLB’s version of Al Davis. I think that might happen.
18 days from the paragragh before....oh, whatever...a reply to a reply.
DyingQuail, I respect your opinions about the state of the franchise. But don’t you think, maybe, Drayton McLane is just preceived to have a “big texan ego,” by the fans because he has alot of money?
I agree that attendance has dropped this year. I would say attendance crashed for a couple of reasons: 1) Fans attitudes about the slow start to this season, 2) The fact the fans are all broke this year and can’t afford to take the family out to a game. 3) The business side of the Astro franchise raising the ticket prices. 4) No real interesting promotions to get people to go to the game. Hell, I gave up my season tickets because of the economy this season…so, maybe we all let the franchise down this season.
As for Drayton McLane spending his money wisely, in 2006, the Astros had the highest payroll in the National League, when we got Carlos. Then, Drayton McLane commited another 158 million for Oswalt and Berkman. Other then Oswalt, 2 out of 3 is pretty sound money management. I personally, would opt out of Oswalt’s contract and spend the money on some new pitchers.
Drayton meddIing in baseball? I don’t see Drayton McLane making any significant influence on the overall direction of baseball. I don’t think Drayton really picks the Astros roster. The 2 things that haven’t drastically changed during his ownership is his advisers and coaches. I suspect Tal Smith influences the franchise more then even Drayton does. You never see or hear about how he influences the roster. Ed Wade worked for Tal Smith Enterprises back in 1986. Then in 2007, he is hired as GM for the Astros? He then acquires Valverde, Tejada, Bourn and Matsui, which you have to admit was great for the 2008 and 2009 seasons. So my theory is that Tal with 52 years in baseball, is “over-advising” Drayton who bought the team with no experience in 1993.
I can’t blame Cooper for the past season. Cecil Cooper had no influence over the team the last 2 years. Any manager the Astros pick during this recent process, is at best, a figure head like Cooper was. The short list is just plain bad…the new coach is going to have to dig deep to find his new staff. So we need a replacement manager that has some major league connections…and none of present candidates have that experience… Astros need to rethink opening the list up again.
The Astros did not have the highest payroll in the NL in 2006; the Mets, Dodgers, Cubs were higher. Here is a link.
Your website link has incomplete information
Clack, the website link you offered only accounts for the payroll from January to April of 2006. The Astros overtook those teams you listed when they acquired Roy Oswalt for $73 million in August 2006 and Carlos Lee for $100 million in the off-season of 2006, respectively. This fact comes from the most recent Astro’s media guide for 2009. On pg. 13, paragraphs 2 and 3. You are correct thru April though…
Actually if you scroll down to the next set of payrolls are the final payroll figures for 2006 with the Mets still ahead of the Astros.
N.Y. Mets…$116,571,696
Houston…$107,659,635
by Timothy De Block on Oct 27, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I am stuck in a accounting dialogue!!! (fighting people off with a slide ruler.)
Timmy, respectfully, add 100 (lee) to 73 (oswalt) and 85 (berkman). 258 million right. That is signed contractual commitments in ficial 2006 payroll. If it is on the books, I would say, the Astros actually ouspent everyone else that year. That web site is wrong. This info comes from the Astro’s media guide…it’s like the bible of Astro facts. (Making a sign of a cross.) Back?!?!! Web disciple?!?! Back!?!?
Those figure you list for Oswalt and Lee are multi-year cumulative contract values, not annual salaries. I hope you aren’t suggesting that the full contract value can be added to the annual payrolls.
It still works out if you divided it mult year...
Clack, even if you divide the contracts by the yearly expected salary, the Astros still spent more then everyone else…you calling the Astro accountants liers?!?! They will give you nasty paper cuts, dude…
You can't add Carlos Lee's salary to the 2006 payroll...
He didn’t play for the Astros until 2007. Both Clemens and Pettitte dropped off the Astros’ payroll after 2006. Even after Lee’s salary was added to the 2007 payroll, the Astros annual payroll had fallen behind the Mets, Dodgers, Cubs, Cardinals, Giants, and Phillies. Link.
What?!?! I feel like I am arguing with my brother!?!? You say white, I say black...
Clack,The Astro accountants use total fiscal year payroll dollars…you think Drayton McLane is not keeping tabs on every cent he spends? That website has no reason to be accurate…and if they were checking their facts correctly…the source of their info would be….(drum roll) The Astro organization.
Astros did not increase ticket prices in 2009. And the 2010 rates will be the same as the 2008 rates as well.
Also, if memory serves me correctly, in better economic times, Oswalt and Berkman’s contracts were considered good deals. Someone else might remember better though.
Your right and wrong AstroAndy
AstroAndy, the season ticket packages are the same prices from 2008-2010. You are right in a broad retort to my ticket increase statement. But, since most Astro fans buy individual tickets, if you are not buying your tickets “early bird pricing,” you are actually paying more for your tickets, in such a bad economy. Here is a price comparision…and this wasn’t easy to find on the Astros website:
Before December 18, 2009 After December 18, 2009
Dugout 48 50
Field 37 39
Crawford 32 34
Bullpen 24 26
Club I 50 52
Club II 42 44
Mezz 18 20
So see, we are both right, from a certain point of view… Let me ask all Astro fans this…Do you buy your game by game tickets before the season even starts?!?! I don’t! So where is the savings? If I had a bad attendence season, I would LOWER my individual ticket prices…not offer a discount and pull it away before the season starts.
I agree that Berkman was a good contract, Oswalt is a matter of opinion. Last season, I don’t think he earned his salary of 14.6 million dollars…do you?
Nice digging on the ticket pricing. I fell for the PR, hook line and sinker.
As for Oswalt’s contract, I think that ~$15mil would buy comparable performance on the free agent market, since you have to pay a premium for consistency, veteraniness, etc. For a contract-comparison, you might look at Derek Lowe last offseason. And O’s contract was signed at a time when teams all around MLB were more flush.
Sure
All of this definitely could be a huge misperception of how Drayton actually conducts himself. The thing is, though, I doubt it.
I blame Coop for terrible bullpen management, no one made him make the decisions he made. I blame Coop for terrible base running strategies, obsessive over realiance on platooning, and other strategic blunders that hamstrung the Astros in 2008, 2009. Sure, he didn’t much to work with, but he played his hand about as poorly as he could have. He alienated the clubhouse. He had Roy Oswalt miffed with him two seasons straight. He botched Ortiz and Paulino. There’s just not much that you can say for Coop’s managerial tenure that is positive.
Berkman and Oswalt’s extensions came before Carlos Lee’s signing, but I think it’s pertinent to remember that Oswalt’s extension came after we pissed him off by aggressively pushing him at the ’06 trade deadline. Somehow, though, we managed to get a ridiculously below market rate on both of them and their contracts have been Godsends.
Great, we locked up two guys from our system. My point in this article is that Drayton has learned very little about FA signings. By all accounts him seems to push for these signings at times he feels like the Astros are one cog in the wheel away from being a champion. These, historically, have rarely been worthwhile. Sure, blame should be leveled on the GM’s and Tal Smith, but at the end of the day, Drayton cuts their checks, and, as is widely reported, is too involved in their decision making process.
Ticket prices, in my opinion, declined due to the economy and a genuinely subpar on field product. The on the field product suffers because Drayton refuses to authorize any kind of rebuilding process (probably because he refused to invest in the farm system for a number of years in the middle of this decade) and persists in the belief that this club is “champion” quality. There’s a genuine disconnect with the reality of the situation and the actions he takes.
Refusing to go one more year on Acta, manager who seemed like he’d be perfect for helping the Astros transition in the next 2-3 years, is absurd. This isn’t the most egregious of Drayton’s boneheaded moves, but it’s the latest one. It’s a symptom of a larger problem that Drayton refuses to adapt from the team he owned from 1993 through 2005. He seems to persist in the belief that somehow, someway things are going to turn out differently.
Tal Smith wanted Acta. I imagine Tal Smith keeps telling Drayton, “Starting pitching,” until he loses his voice. Like the quote AstrosAndy has from Neyer below: if Drayton doesn’t even trust Tal Smith anymore, why does he still employ him?
The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Oct 27, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
too true
The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Oct 26, 2009 6:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hit the nail on the head
I’d also like to add that you have a manager who really wants to manage your team, and some how they manage to screw it up.
by Timothy De Block on Oct 27, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions

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