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Acta gets the Farmstros Endorsement


Looking at the four reported finalist for the Astros managerial job, it seems Manny Acta deserves the Farmstros endorsement.    Acta was drafted by the Astros and spent several years in their minor league system.   Add on to that, seven years as a minor league manager for Houston and he IS Farmstros.  Granted, he has two years experience as a big league manager, but that was with Washington, so it doesn't detract too much from his Farmstros resume.

 

Clark comes in second with his experience managing in the system.

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was he drafted or signed?

by Timothy De Block on Oct 22, 2009 7:08 AM CDT reply actions  

signed in 1987

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by Only_A_Lad on Oct 22, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I missed that he was undrafted

That makes it an even better story

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by farm_stros on Oct 22, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

If I understand it right

Acta was a foreign FA. It’s hard to notice it from listening to him speak, but Acta is a DR native.

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by Only_A_Lad on Oct 22, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay I get why the Astros want Acta

given his history in the system but why is Manny such a hot topic among other manager searches? The Indians brought him in for a second interview, so did we, plus on MLBTR there was a comment that if he doesn’t get one of those he could likely land in Toronto. He only has 3 years of experience in Washington. Can someone please explain this to me.

by Astrosws20 on Oct 22, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

He does well in interviews

He’s shown a tenacity for sabermetrics which is looking at the numbers and putting your players in the best possible position to win. Mark Shapiro is one of the best GM’s in baseball and if I’m recalling correctly he does take numbers into account when making GM decisions. I don’t want to say he’s a full blown sabermetric GM like Billy Beane but I do believe they are apart of his decision making process. It’s only fitting that one of the best GM’s would be going after one of the most intelligent managers available. I haven’t heard anything about the Toronto position, was Cito Gaston let go?

Acta had a bad gig in Washington, mostly due to the front office (the GM was under investigation) which provided him less than ideal players, most organizations understand this. His intelligence makes him one of the hottest manager prospects at the moment. Think Terry Francona before he went to the Red Sox (Phillies) or Bill Belicheck before going to the Patriots (Browns).

by Timothy De Block on Oct 22, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

First, he has more than just 3 years coaching the Nats. He started his coaching career as a player-coach in 1991, and managed in the minors until 2000, winning a championship along the way. He also spent 3 years as Frank Robinson’s 3B coach and a while as Willie Randolph’s 3B coach.

He also showed that he could do well with talent by taking the Dominican World Baseball Classic to a top 4 finish in 2006.

He’s bilingual, which goes a long way to being able to communicate directly with everyone on the team (except Kaz). This is a big selling point for the Indians, who have a lot of Latin infielders and prospects.

And in those 3 years in Washington, he apparently did a good job at helping young, inexperienced, struggling (and perhaps unqualified) players keep an even keel and manage their frustration. Baseball is hugely mental, and so this could be a major benefit to some of the young guys the Astros plan on transitioning in.

The question remaining in my mind is how well he’d be able to interact with the veterans on staff. He’s familiar with the big guys—he managed Oswalt and Berkman in the minors and Carlos Lee from managing in the Venezuelan winter league. Whether that can translate into getting hustle out of El Caballo, and getting Roy to be upfront about his health is still up in the air.

by AstroAndy on Oct 22, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know he has more than just 3 years experience. I’m just saying as a MLB manager. I know the resume is extensive but there are many others out there who have been in the game as long and I was just trying to find out what separates him from those guys.

by Astrosws20 on Oct 22, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Toronto and Cleveland are both sabermetric oriented organizations.

The Cleveland Asst. GM, Antonelli, developed proprietary player statistical software for the Indians, which has been compared to a more sophisticated version of PECOTA, and is in charge of developing statistical and technological systems to give the Indians an edge over other organizations. J.P. Ricciardi was a Billy Bean assistant who was hired by the Blue Jays to bring “moneyball” techniques to that team. Although he was fired at the end of this season, he was replaced by his assistant—-so I am assuming the Blue Jays are still sabermetric oriented.

Given that background, I’m not surprised that these two organizations are interested in Acta. Also I think that Acta has had the reputation in baseball circles as one of the bright young manager prospects.

by clack on Oct 22, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys are getting carried away with "sabermetric-oriented" people

in the grand scheme of things, the traditional stats that have been used for more than 50 years are still legit and work. Lets say Cooper heavily used sabermetric statistics in his decision-making last season. How many wins do we gain as a result of this?

by goingforthecorner on Oct 23, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Wins? I dunno. But we’d have seen a better use of bunts and attempted steals.

by AstroAndy on Oct 23, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

As an added note, one of the important things about a “saber-metric” person, to me at least, would be that he’s more open-minded, and able to be persuaded through reason rather than gut instinct.

by AstroAndy on Oct 23, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll readily admit that acceptance of sabermetric concepts is more important for the front office than the manager. However, I do think that a slow revolution n the way that baseball teams are put togehter and managed is taking place. The “saber” moniker may be a turn off and maybe I shouldn’t use it. Perhaps “analtyical” and “fact based” practices is a better way of saying it. I can identify with the quote from the 1980’s by an early statistical analyst—-how can teams with budets in the hundreds of millions of dollars spend and operate in apparent ignorance of how wins are produced? I think that teams which move quickly to adopt current knowledge in their operations will gain an edge.
In terms of a manager, I would rather have someone who is analytical in his thinking, as opposed to making decisions based on the equivalent of baseball old wives’ tales handed down from managers 50 years ago. I mean….do you rmember when Cecil Cooper called HRs in the 9th inning “rally killers?”
Although we’ve talked about Acta understanding some of the basic conclusions of sabermetrics, I’ll also give credit to Garner as open minded to statistical analysis.

by clack on Oct 23, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

“the traditional stats that have been used for more than 50 years are still legit and work”

I have to disagree. For instance, if we’re going to judge by runs batted in and batting average, Tejada was a much better player than Lance Berkman in 2009.

I hope we all realize that this couldn’t be farther from the truth.

I will say one thing though: It’s not enough to just use sabermetrics. Anybody can say they use them. What’s important is that you demonstrate an understanding of them with your decisionmaking.

by OremLK on Oct 23, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to disagree, as well

“still” implies that they were at some time “legit and work,” and that was never the case.

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by Only_A_Lad on Oct 25, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Traditional stats IMO aren't just BA and RBI

OBP, SLG, OPS, BB, SB, K, BA, RBI, R, DP, S, BS, IP, ERA, H, HR, 1B, 2B, 3B, SF

these are all “traditional”, no? These are definitely enough stats (you can play with these stats, like taking the ratio of different ones) to manage a team.

The more advanced stats that have been created recently, I don’t see them as being necessary to managing a club well.

by goingforthecorner on Oct 27, 2009 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

With respect to a manager understanding sabermetrics, I don’t think it’s the advanced stats themselves which are important. The more important point is understanding the principles which derive from sabermetric studies. Those principles have a lot to say about strategies like bunting, stealing bases, intentional walks, playing infield or outfield shifts, etc. In some cases, those studies are contrary to traditional managerial tactics.

by clack on Oct 27, 2009 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

True, but there is some importance in the specific stats, though. FanGraphs has had a good series of articles on all the managerial blunders this post-season in terms of lineup selection, pinch hitting, pitcher selection, etc. Sciosca, Girardi, even Torre made some really dumb choices stemming from a basic disregard for the statistically proven capabilities of their hitters. In some cases they did get lucky (Mathis vs Napoli), but in others it may have cost them wins (Robertson vs Aceves).

by OremLK on Oct 27, 2009 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

the discussion we had in another thread about managers making decisions based on very small sample sizes is another example.

by clack on Oct 27, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am more than hopeful that Acta gets the job in Cleveland because that would open the way for Phil Garner to return as manager of the Astros.
Garner should never have been let go and this would right the ship. Garner and Larry Dierker were the two best managers the Astros ever had and I am hopeful for “Scrapirons” return

Why Worry

by BaseballJunkieCM on Oct 25, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions  

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