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He concludes scorer bias, the comments kick it around. A good read.

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Yes. interesting.

My initial reaction, too, was that this is likely human error. I had always wondered about the subjectivity involved in that gray area between line drives and flyballs (how many times do play by play guys refer to humpback liners?). I hadn’t thought about the dividing line between grounders and liners, which is brought up also. Someone suggests that more balls in the outfield gaps are coded line drive, which would be an interesting bias.

I wonder how many people are making these determinations at MMP?

by clack on Jan 11, 2009 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

Aren't scorers rotated?

Unless the bias comes from the structure of MMP, shouldn’t scoring be relatively consistent?

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 11, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

The determinations for line drives, flyball, etc., aren't made by the official scorers.

My limited understanding is that the various stat services (retrosheet, Stats, Inc, BIS) have their own people who make these determinations. However, ti could well be that those people are rotated too. In which case, it might be hard to figure out park factors if, say, one of the persons has a poor idea of how to differentiate LDs, FBs, etc.

by clack on Jan 11, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

And isn’t there a velocity determination, soft, medium or hard or something like that? Also imagine determining whether a ball is one zone or the other.

If the wealth of information from PITCHfx comes from 2 video cameras (plus some impressive brain power as well), bring on HITfx and mount a couple video cameras for that.

by ol Pete on Jan 11, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

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