Astros @ Cubs: Stymie the Bleeding
by Stephen Higdon on Sep 15, 2008 12:30 PM CDT
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Well, it wasn't until I just posted that widget that I became aware of the fact that the Cubs were slotting Lilly in today instead of Marquis. The only thing I can say about that is **expletive deleted**
Moehler was solid in his last outing, which inspires a modicum of confidence, but the analytical side of brian tells me not to put too much faith in him given the circumstances. Lilly has been on or off all year. In his last outing against the Astros he was on, but he most recently was shelled by the likes of Cincinati two starts ago. It would be nice to get Wigginton back in the line-up against the lefty, but Abercrombie is OPSing over 1.000 against lefties, so let's hope our righties mash Lilly.
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I have it on FSN in Georgetown, TX
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Sep 15, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
It's on FSN,
also on A Chicago network (not WGN TV) . It’s also on Radio but not the regular KTRH but one a few notches up on the dial -790 maybe
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Game has better start
Soriano only singled
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
Soriano scored on sac fly
following a single that moved him to third
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Too pissed about yesterday's joke of a no-hitter!!!
I will go crazy if we don’t shove it down their throats today.
Who gave Abercrombie a .313 batting average?
That’s almost as much of a joke as Zambrano’s no hitter.
He had a 3-hit game the other day
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Lilly looked hittable
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
To explicate that
It just that the Astros were way over aggressive. Hopefully Lance changes the tempo for our offense.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Sep 15, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Suck a dick Jim Edmonds.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
Edmonds ball caught
by Pence right at the fence. – close call
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions
Cubs fans love them some Jim Edmonds...
Hated him when he came to the team, but as soon as he started hitting, they forgot about all the times he gave it to them up the ass and took a big, fat one in the mouth. :p
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Jose Castillo batting fifth?
between Berkman and Pence?
That’s not a confidence builder
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions
Castillo batted sixth
Something I read had him fifth. He struck out to end thesecond.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Berkman picked off first
or caught stealing – take your choice.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe this shit.
One hurricane destroys your city and you guys start playing like crap. :p
No hitter in tact after two.
Let me tell you why Cooper is so smart. Lilly has been terrible against left handed batters. So what does Coop do? PUT ALMOST NOTHING BUT RIGHT HANDERS IN HIS LINE UP.
5 Astros strike out in the first 3 innings
None get a hit.
The only one to reach base was picked off or caught stealing – take your choice)
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions
Holy shit
they fired Ned Yost!
I mean, he’s awful, but they’re in the middle of a pennant race. Not really a good time to shake up the clubhouse.
I can see the lead Story on ESPN's BaseballTonight
How Does Ned Yost’s firing affect the Red Sox?
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Has any team ever been no hit back to back?
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
Damn you Jim Edmonds.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
We are four innings away from another no hitter.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
Astros no hit through five
Do we need any more proof this series should have been postponed? Today and yesterday’s outing do not qualify as “games” on a substance rather than form analysis.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions
I love the Cubsfans' talking point:
Drayton should have had a plan and moved the games earlier.
Never mind that the players had to evacuate their families.
And this is getting ugly. 4-0 Cubs.
Derrek Lee homerun
4-0 Cubs
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions
I'm glad that I'm in class
Otherwise, I’d kill myself/someone/something.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
6-0
Soto homers. I hate my life.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
This is just a repeat of yesterday.
This team can’t play right now.
MLB has just ruined our playoff run.
Or at least set it back.
Astros can still salvage the season but it’s going to be tough.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I assume Brewers will crash and burn
Meaning the Astros must catch the hot Phillies or the reeling Mets
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey now
Dropping 2 (assuming we go on to drop 2) is by no means the end of the run. We still should be able to do well at Florida and Pittsburgh, and the Brewers and Mets are still imploding.
I wouldn't say the Mets are imploding.
They are 6-4 in their last 10. The Phillies could overtake them, but the Astros still have a worse record than 3 possible wild card teams right now. After being humiliated with possibly back to back no hitters and getting screwed by MLB, how well do you think the team is going to play? The team’s morale has to be in the shitter.
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
What happened to Q?
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
To depress yourself
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
Coop is going big or going home
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
3 innings until No hitter.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
69 pitches for Lilly.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Sep 15, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course...
He’s just that good, isn’t he?
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
No Morale.
After getting fucked from every direction by MLB and mother nature (and now the scorer).. every out makes it worse. Battles cannot be won without morale. That’s why in historic military battles in which the human element played an important part, it was important for leaders to keep their troops morale up. At this point, only luck or something outside the ballpark (something good happening at home, for example) can help them.
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
We should have just gone with the all reliever rotation.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
NO HITTER BROKE UP!!!!!!!!
REGGIE, REGGIE, REGGIE!!!!
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
Nevermind
ROE
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Sep 15, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
It only takes a spark to get the fire going
As I sang in a fifth grade musical.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
OH HELL YES
Lorretta singles.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
Let's get some runs on the board
Load ’em up for Lance
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
It'd be nice to get a three run inning here
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions
Tejada K's
Lance, Lance, Lance, Lance, LANCE!!!!!
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
it's moments like this
that I wish I could send a note something like this to Berkman:
for the love of Texas, BBQ, flag football and everything that is good, now is the time to punish the Cubs and let the sports world know that no hurricane can stop us going to the playoffs
It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy. - Nolan
That brought a tear to my eye
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Sep 15, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a few feet short of warning track power.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
Come HP
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
K - SHIT
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
I would like to take a survey..
and see how many Astros cannot contact their immediate families right now.
Astros scored a run in the eighth
if anyone cares
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry about this above post
I didn’t notice the many posts after this (I’m cleaning my office and lost track of things)
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't decide whether to scream or cry
This ain’t right.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions
We can only hope that they will be able to pick up the pieces
against the Marlins. And maybe power will be restored to the Houston area so they are isolated from their friends and family and things might start looking up for them.
I think that's likely
The situation in Houston shouldn’t do anything but improve, and fast.
And since these two games were such ridiculous blowouts, it should make it easier than otherwise to write them off as flukes, a result of the perfect storm of Ike and Bud, and then get back to playing Astros baseball.
And
isn’t Roy O slated to start tomorrow against Florida? That should be a pretty good way to right the ship.
The Marlins are hot right now though.
They could be tough to beat.
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. Impressive.
Get me a run, then I’ll be happy.
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Marmol in
Game=over
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
Newhan - PH for Hawkins
K’s
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
Nevermind
Gameday lied.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
SF
we’re on the board
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
Blum PH for Abercrombie
K’s
3 outs left.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
I hope we have to play that make up game at the end of the year.
And it wears them out.
Better yet. I hope we make it to the postseason so we can sweep them out of it.
That would be glorious
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Sep 15, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
That WOULD be glorious
I can almost taste it.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
True
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
I love all this newly found cub's hatred.
It’s 100% the cub’s fault that the games are being play in Milwaukee, so everybody should just hate them because they won 2 games
We hated them already.
This undue praise they are getting just helps us focus our efforts.
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't appreciate a team...
that needs a hurricane to help them beat another team.
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
It is interesting .
It’s not really the Cubs fault (except for the Cubs fans moronic statements teh past few days).
But the Astros cannot do anything about Bud Selig . The only thing the Astros can do is take it out on the team most closely associated with this ourtrage and who benefitted the most from it (and the Cubs may not benefit as much as the Brewers, Phillies and Mets; but they are the visible object of revenge! )
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
The one thing
that Bud Selig wants for Christmas is the Cubs in the World Series. If we can take them out of the playoffs, that would be double sweetness.
ASTROS LOSE 6-1
It counts in the standings but not in my heart.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions
Amen.
You said it, Joe.
Hi, my name is Rich and I'm an Astroholic.
by Austin Astroholic on Sep 15, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Really the No-No should not count.
I mean its not like Carlos Zambrano pitched a good game or anything. Come on guys you are absolutely ridiculous with this whole denial thing.
Zambrano pitched a no hitter against, regardless of the circumstances its impressive.
So every time a team is dealt a bad hand and loses (no matter how that loss comes) the result should be simply disregarded because there are some bad circumstances involved in the game. If Drayton would have simply would have let the game be played in Seattle or LA, but because he didnt: Oh no, the No-no is a farce, put an asterisk next the no hitter.
The Astros are not as good as they have played the last month (as there negative run differential indicates) and to say that this would not have happened otherwise is a true farce. It would have been harder to do at Houston, but the cubs are a clearly superior team and it is very possible for Z to do this to that lineup.
Im going to preempt your response first of all no run differential isnt a lie, your just mad because it doesnt support your team. If your team had a great run differential you would be trotting out that stat too. And no you cant use the D-backs last year as a reason why run differential is a bad stat. The D-backs are only 1 of 2 teams to make the playoffs with run differential. Think about that: in over a hundred years of baseball only 2 teams EVER have overcome a negative run differential to make the playoffs. An imperfect stat it is, but it is quite accurate.
And 2 the Cubs are the superior team by any objective measure so dont try to say otherwise with random anecdotal junk.
Anyways end of rant: Ill probably be banned after this, but Im right
Madlarkin
ACB
it's ridiculous to call these "bad circumstances"
I don’t really blame the Cubs for anything in these situations. It’s MLB that screwed us. That doesn’t mean that plenty of Cubs fans aren’t colossal jackasses. Read the last game thread for the “McLane was greedy stuff”.
like a club that had a bad call go against them or had a player get hurt.
I doubt anyone here would seriously argue that the Astros aren’t playing over their heads so your whole run differential argument is wasted.
If you’re going to argue that having to travel across country and play a game the same day when many of your friends and families are living w/o power is anything resembling normal circumstances, then you don’t deserve to be taken seriously.
Enjoy your no-hitter* and early exit from the playoffs.
Wait, Time out
When did anyone here say that the No-No shouldn’t count? I believe we said that it probably wouldn’t have happened if Zambrano didn’t get two extra days of rest, have to travel 90 min in a bus, and face a team that had just weathered a hurricane, not slept for days, and then have a ridiculous travel schedule. However, you’re free to distort the facts as you please.
As per your Run differential argument, let’s just look at the Post ASB Astros. Why? Because before then, Villareal, Backe, and Roy Oswalt were giving up HR at an unprecedented pace. Villareal was in the top 5 for HR allowed at one point, as a relief pitcher — he was axed and then Roy regained form. Post ASB Astros own a +32 run differential (251 RS and 219 RA). So I don’t think it’s unsustainable.
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Sep 15, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, who deleted the whole middle part of the thread?
That was the cool part, with the idiot Cubs fans coming in and making stupid comments. That should have been kept for all eternity as a testament to the asshattery of Chicago Cubs fans.
Pretty funny that
basically everyone I banned/deleted content to today was also banned at the Cubs blog(bleedcubbieblue)
Go 'Stros!
Ha!
That IS funny!
I appreciate your tidying up this thread. I think. for the most part, that the folks who post here regularly are reasonable, intelligent, and keep it pretty clean. I found the asshats Cubs fans who posted here today to be none of the above.
I will miss revisiting Only_A_Lad’s excellent rebuttal. Thanks, Only, for your efforts!
Yea
I don’t mind comments that are not of my own… but like it says when you sign up for the blog. Sorry some nice/funny quotes by you guys/girls took the hit as well
Don’t be mean. No flaming, spaming or any other rude behavior towards any member of the Crawfishboxes community.
Go 'Stros!
They are not really members though.
:p
I mean, maybe in the technical sense in that they joined, but come on.
haha
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
I try.
And they didn’t elect me President of the Tulane Debate Society for nothing! (I think it was because I promised free booze at meetings, but the point stands.)
When were you there?
I was class of ’03, went to pretty much every home game. Still have the scoresheets. :-)
Mets lost today...
Phillies are now one half game out of the East.. so we need the Brewers and one of either the Phillies or the Mets to keep on losin’.
so....
this past weekend has been bizzare to say the least. I came here to see what the reaction would be from Houston and it’s not that far off from what I expected. It sucks getting your schedule messed with. It sucks losing home games when you are desperately trying to make the playoffs. It’d be really convenient to blame one side, but I truly believe that everyone involved screwed up on this one big time. Best of luck to you guys the rest of the way. Hopefully the Cubs can knock off a few teams that are in your way.
more important than baseball, best of luck to those of you down in houston. hopefully you and your loved one are safe.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
im hoping they can
itd be nice to knock em off. I am very curious to see how the Brewers play this week after the firing of ned yost
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Me too..
I think it was a boneheaded move, personally, but I guess we’ll find out.
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
most brewers fans I know would tell you this move
is about 2 years late. The guys I know that live north of the cheddar curtain like ned yost about as much as we liked dusty baker in his final year in chicago.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
And the Mets too.
You have 4 games with them. If you wouldn’t mind sweeping the Mets, that would be great.
by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
unfortunately
there are very few quality sports writers in the city. With both of the big papers dying even the guys who used to be good have gone to more of a shock-jock approach. As long as you are reading them they are happy.
---AC 00 00 00 - Believe
Case in point:
Remember that crap with the Astros players’ wives and the 2005 World Series?
Whatever. Don’t judge a city or fan base by its idiot residents. Every team has followers who are complete douchebags.
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