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Astros @ Cubs: Stymie the Bleeding

Chicago Cubs @ Houston Astros


I'm not even going to dignify the fact that I purposefully inverted the Home and Away teams with a snide remark -- although this may have served as one.


Current Series

4 game series vs Cubs @ Minute Maid Park

Fri 09/12 Postponed
Sat 09/13 Postponed
Sun 09/14 WP: Carlos Zambrano (14 - 5)
LP: Randy Wolf (10 - 12)
0 - 5 loss

Chicago Cubs
@ Houston Astros

Monday, Sep 15, 2008, 1:05 PM CDT
Miller Park - Milwaukee, WI

Ted Lilly vs Brian Moehler

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing out to right field at 10-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 60.

 

Complete Coverage >


Well, it wasn't until I just posted that widget that I became aware of the fact that the Cubs were slotting Lilly in today instead of Marquis.  The only thing I can say about that is **expletive deleted**


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Brian Moehler 11-6 28 23 0 0 0 0 138.1 151 67 64 18 33 76 4.16 1.33


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ted Lilly 14-9 31 31 0 0 0 0 184.2 178 91 88 31 60 166 4.29 1.29

Moehler was solid in his last outing, which inspires a modicum of confidence, but the analytical side of brian tells me not to put too much faith in him given the circumstances.  Lilly has been on or off all year.  In his last outing against the Astros he was on, but he most recently was shelled by the likes of Cincinati two starts ago.  It would be nice to get Wigginton back in the line-up against the lefty, but Abercrombie is OPSing over 1.000 against lefties, so let's hope our righties mash Lilly.




 

 

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I have it on FSN in Georgetown, TX

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 1:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's on FSN,

also on A Chicago network (not WGN TV) . It’s also on Radio but not the regular KTRH but one a few notches up on the dial -790 maybe

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game has better start

Soriano only singled

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Soriano scored on sac fly

following a single that moved him to third

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too pissed about yesterday's joke of a no-hitter!!!

I will go crazy if we don’t shove it down their throats today.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cubs have another no-hitter going.

Won’t be as easy for Lilly as it was for Zambrano though.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lilly looked hittable

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To explicate that

It just that the Astros were way over aggressive. Hopefully Lance changes the tempo for our offense.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 1:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Suck a dick Jim Edmonds.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Edmonds ball caught

by Pence right at the fence. – close call

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cubs fans love them some Jim Edmonds...

Hated him when he came to the team, but as soon as he started hitting, they forgot about all the times he gave it to them up the ass and took a big, fat one in the mouth. :p

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jose Castillo batting fifth?

between Berkman and Pence?

That’s not a confidence builder

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Castillo batted sixth

Something I read had him fifth. He struck out to end thesecond.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Berkman walks

Perfect game kaput for Lilly.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Berkman picked off first

or caught stealing – take your choice.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't believe this shit.

One hurricane destroys your city and you guys start playing like crap. :p

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No hitter in tact after two.

Let me tell you why Cooper is so smart. Lilly has been terrible against left handed batters. So what does Coop do? PUT ALMOST NOTHING BUT RIGHT HANDERS IN HIS LINE UP.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5 Astros strike out in the first 3 innings

None get a hit.

The only one to reach base was picked off or caught stealing – take your choice)

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy shit

they fired Ned Yost!

I mean, he’s awful, but they’re in the middle of a pennant race. Not really a good time to shake up the clubhouse.

by Only_A_Lad on Sep 15, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can see the lead Story on ESPN's BaseballTonight

How Does Ned Yost’s firing affect the Red Sox?

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 2:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Has any team ever been no hit back to back?

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn you Jim Edmonds.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 2:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are four innings away from another no hitter.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah

We’re a half inning away from breaking up a no-hitter. You’ll see.

by Xan on Sep 15, 2008 2:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Astros no hit through five

Do we need any more proof this series should have been postponed? Today and yesterday’s outing do not qualify as “games” on a substance rather than form analysis.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love the Cubsfans' talking point:

Drayton should have had a plan and moved the games earlier.

Never mind that the players had to evacuate their families.

And this is getting ugly. 4-0 Cubs.

by Only_A_Lad on Sep 15, 2008 2:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Joke"

is the kindest possible word that makes sense in your sentence.

Is it just me or is this a completely transparent favor that Selig is doing for his two favorite franchises, the Brewers and Cubs? How can it be interpreted any other way?

by Xan on Sep 15, 2008 2:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm glad that I'm in class

Otherwise, I’d kill myself/someone/something.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 2:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

6-0

Soto homers. I hate my life.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 2:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is just a repeat of yesterday.

This team can’t play right now.
MLB has just ruined our playoff run.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or at least set it back.

Astros can still salvage the season but it’s going to be tough.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I assume Brewers will crash and burn

Meaning the Astros must catch the hot Phillies or the reeling Mets

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 2:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey now

Dropping 2 (assuming we go on to drop 2) is by no means the end of the run. We still should be able to do well at Florida and Pittsburgh, and the Brewers and Mets are still imploding.

by Xan on Sep 15, 2008 2:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't say the Mets are imploding.

They are 6-4 in their last 10. The Phillies could overtake them, but the Astros still have a worse record than 3 possible wild card teams right now. After being humiliated with possibly back to back no hitters and getting screwed by MLB, how well do you think the team is going to play? The team’s morale has to be in the shitter.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 2:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What happened to Q?

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To depress yourself

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Coop is going big or going home

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3 innings until No hitter.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

69 pitches for Lilly.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 2:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course...

He’s just that good, isn’t he?

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I'd made it through middle school

with a name like “Lilly”, I’d be pretty tough too.

by Xan on Sep 15, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Morale.

After getting fucked from every direction by MLB and mother nature (and now the scorer).. every out makes it worse. Battles cannot be won without morale. That’s why in historic military battles in which the human element played an important part, it was important for leaders to keep their troops morale up. At this point, only luck or something outside the ballpark (something good happening at home, for example) can help them.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We should have just gone with the all reliever rotation.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NO HITTER BROKE UP!!!!!!!!

REGGIE, REGGIE, REGGIE!!!!

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nevermind

ROE

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why is the mid 7th taking so long?

Tell me they are not doing a “Take me out to the ballgame”?!

by garageinc on Sep 15, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It only takes a spark to get the fire going

As I sang in a fifth grade musical.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OH HELL YES

Lorretta singles.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's get some runs on the board

Load ’em up for Lance

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tejada K's

Lance, Lance, Lance, Lance, LANCE!!!!!

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's moments like this

that I wish I could send a note something like this to Berkman:

for the love of Texas, BBQ, flag football and everything that is good, now is the time to punish the Cubs and let the sports world know that no hurricane can stop us going to the playoffs

It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy. - Nolan

by clockwerks on Sep 15, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That brought a tear to my eye

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just a few feet short of warning track power.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come HP

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on hunter, put us on the board!

It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy. - Nolan

by clockwerks on Sep 15, 2008 3:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

K - SHIT

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would like to take a survey..

and see how many Astros cannot contact their immediate families right now.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry about this above post

I didn’t notice the many posts after this (I’m cleaning my office and lost track of things)

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We can only hope that they will be able to pick up the pieces

against the Marlins. And maybe power will be restored to the Houston area so they are isolated from their friends and family and things might start looking up for them.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think that's likely

The situation in Houston shouldn’t do anything but improve, and fast.

And since these two games were such ridiculous blowouts, it should make it easier than otherwise to write them off as flukes, a result of the perfect storm of Ike and Bud, and then get back to playing Astros baseball.

by Xan on Sep 15, 2008 3:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And

isn’t Roy O slated to start tomorrow against Florida? That should be a pretty good way to right the ship.

by Xan on Sep 15, 2008 3:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marmol in

Game=over

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Newhan - PH for Hawkins

K’s

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nevermind

Gameday lied.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SF

we’re on the board

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blum PH for Abercrombie

K’s

3 outs left.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope we have to play that make up game at the end of the year.

And it wears them out.

Better yet. I hope we make it to the postseason so we can sweep them out of it.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That would be glorious

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That WOULD be glorious

I can almost taste it.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love all this newly found cub's hatred.

It’s 100% the cub’s fault that the games are being play in Milwaukee, so everybody should just hate them because they won 2 games

by pjanisch on Sep 15, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We hated them already.

This undue praise they are getting just helps us focus our efforts.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't appreciate a team...

that needs a hurricane to help them beat another team.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 3:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is interesting .

It’s not really the Cubs fault (except for the Cubs fans moronic statements teh past few days).

But the Astros cannot do anything about Bud Selig . The only thing the Astros can do is take it out on the team most closely associated with this ourtrage and who benefitted the most from it (and the Cubs may not benefit as much as the Brewers, Phillies and Mets; but they are the visible object of revenge! )

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The one thing

that Bud Selig wants for Christmas is the Cubs in the World Series. If we can take them out of the playoffs, that would be double sweetness.

by Xan on Sep 15, 2008 3:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually don't hate the Cubs that much

I just hate their classless fans. McTaggart said it best.

by Danyah on Sep 15, 2008 5:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ASTROS LOSE 6-1

It counts in the standings but not in my heart.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 15, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amen.

You said it, Joe.

Hi, my name is Rich and I'm an Astroholic.

by Austin Astroholic on Sep 15, 2008 4:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really the No-No should not count.

I mean its not like Carlos Zambrano pitched a good game or anything. Come on guys you are absolutely ridiculous with this whole denial thing.

Zambrano pitched a no hitter against, regardless of the circumstances its impressive.

So every time a team is dealt a bad hand and loses (no matter how that loss comes) the result should be simply disregarded because there are some bad circumstances involved in the game. If Drayton would have simply would have let the game be played in Seattle or LA, but because he didnt: Oh no, the No-no is a farce, put an asterisk next the no hitter.

The Astros are not as good as they have played the last month (as there negative run differential indicates) and to say that this would not have happened otherwise is a true farce. It would have been harder to do at Houston, but the cubs are a clearly superior team and it is very possible for Z to do this to that lineup.

Im going to preempt your response first of all no run differential isnt a lie, your just mad because it doesnt support your team. If your team had a great run differential you would be trotting out that stat too. And no you cant use the D-backs last year as a reason why run differential is a bad stat. The D-backs are only 1 of 2 teams to make the playoffs with run differential. Think about that: in over a hundred years of baseball only 2 teams EVER have overcome a negative run differential to make the playoffs. An imperfect stat it is, but it is quite accurate.

And 2 the Cubs are the superior team by any objective measure so dont try to say otherwise with random anecdotal junk.

Anyways end of rant: Ill probably be banned after this, but Im right

Madlarkin
ACB

by Madlarkin on Sep 15, 2008 5:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry Im on an old laptop and my punctuation keys are done. I may not have been that clear because of that, but whatever.

by Madlarkin on Sep 15, 2008 5:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's ridiculous to call these "bad circumstances"

I don’t really blame the Cubs for anything in these situations. It’s MLB that screwed us. That doesn’t mean that plenty of Cubs fans aren’t colossal jackasses. Read the last game thread for the “McLane was greedy stuff”.

like a club that had a bad call go against them or had a player get hurt.

I doubt anyone here would seriously argue that the Astros aren’t playing over their heads so your whole run differential argument is wasted.

If you’re going to argue that having to travel across country and play a game the same day when many of your friends and families are living w/o power is anything resembling normal circumstances, then you don’t deserve to be taken seriously.

Enjoy your no-hitter* and early exit from the playoffs.

by lnewcomer on Sep 15, 2008 5:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait, Time out

When did anyone here say that the No-No shouldn’t count? I believe we said that it probably wouldn’t have happened if Zambrano didn’t get two extra days of rest, have to travel 90 min in a bus, and face a team that had just weathered a hurricane, not slept for days, and then have a ridiculous travel schedule. However, you’re free to distort the facts as you please.

As per your Run differential argument, let’s just look at the Post ASB Astros. Why? Because before then, Villareal, Backe, and Roy Oswalt were giving up HR at an unprecedented pace. Villareal was in the top 5 for HR allowed at one point, as a relief pitcher — he was axed and then Roy regained form. Post ASB Astros own a +32 run differential (251 RS and 219 RA). So I don’t think it’s unsustainable.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Sep 15, 2008 6:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go home

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Sep 15, 2008 5:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, who deleted the whole middle part of the thread?

That was the cool part, with the idiot Cubs fans coming in and making stupid comments. That should have been kept for all eternity as a testament to the asshattery of Chicago Cubs fans.

by Only_A_Lad on Sep 15, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did

And by the way… not every Cubs fan is an asshat… there are a few decent ones ;)

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Sep 15, 2008 8:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pretty funny that

basically everyone I banned/deleted content to today was also banned at the Cubs blog(bleedcubbieblue)

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Sep 15, 2008 8:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha!

That IS funny!

I appreciate your tidying up this thread. I think. for the most part, that the folks who post here regularly are reasonable, intelligent, and keep it pretty clean. I found the asshats Cubs fans who posted here today to be none of the above.

I will miss revisiting Only_A_Lad’s excellent rebuttal. Thanks, Only, for your efforts!

by Danyah on Sep 15, 2008 8:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea

I don’t mind comments that are not of my own… but like it says when you sign up for the blog. Sorry some nice/funny quotes by you guys/girls took the hit as well

Don’t be mean. No flaming, spaming or any other rude behavior towards any member of the Crawfishboxes community.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Sep 15, 2008 8:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are not really members though.

:p

I mean, maybe in the technical sense in that they joined, but come on.
haha

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 8:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

I try.

And they didn’t elect me President of the Tulane Debate Society for nothing! (I think it was because I promised free booze at meetings, but the point stands.)

by Only_A_Lad on Sep 15, 2008 8:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When were you there?

I was class of ’03, went to pretty much every home game. Still have the scoresheets. :-)

by Xan on Sep 16, 2008 1:08 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mets lost today...

Phillies are now one half game out of the East.. so we need the Brewers and one of either the Phillies or the Mets to keep on losin’.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so....

this past weekend has been bizzare to say the least. I came here to see what the reaction would be from Houston and it’s not that far off from what I expected. It sucks getting your schedule messed with. It sucks losing home games when you are desperately trying to make the playoffs. It’d be really convenient to blame one side, but I truly believe that everyone involved screwed up on this one big time. Best of luck to you guys the rest of the way. Hopefully the Cubs can knock off a few teams that are in your way.

more important than baseball, best of luck to those of you down in houston. hopefully you and your loved one are safe.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Sep 15, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im hoping they can

itd be nice to knock em off. I am very curious to see how the Brewers play this week after the firing of ned yost

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Sep 15, 2008 9:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too..

I think it was a boneheaded move, personally, but I guess we’ll find out.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 10:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

most brewers fans I know would tell you this move

is about 2 years late. The guys I know that live north of the cheddar curtain like ned yost about as much as we liked dusty baker in his final year in chicago.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Sep 15, 2008 10:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And the Mets too.

You have 4 games with them. If you wouldn’t mind sweeping the Mets, that would be great.

by entropic soul on Sep 15, 2008 9:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

And none more than our owner, possibly. It is really difficult to see envision those Cubs fans who aren’t jerks, though, when one reads this or this. From the outside looking in, there truly appears to be a complete lack of grace or class in that city.

by Danyah on Sep 16, 2008 5:34 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

unfortunately

there are very few quality sports writers in the city. With both of the big papers dying even the guys who used to be good have gone to more of a shock-jock approach. As long as you are reading them they are happy.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Sep 16, 2008 8:14 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Case in point:

Remember that crap with the Astros players’ wives and the 2005 World Series?

Whatever. Don’t judge a city or fan base by its idiot residents. Every team has followers who are complete douchebags.

by Only_A_Lad on Sep 16, 2008 8:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And unfortunatley

1 douchebag makes more impact than 1000 respectable fans.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Sep 16, 2008 9:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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