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MLB Records - Will These Ever Be Broken?

So I was browsing around MLB.com and found this list of the longest standing records in baseball.

Single Season Records
1. Batting Average: .426 - Nap Lajoie (1901)
2. Wins: 41 - Jack Chesbro (1904)
3. Triples: 36 - Chief Wilson (1912)
4. Extra-Base Hits: 119 - Babe Ruth (1921)
5. Runs: 177 - Babe Ruth (1921)
6. Total Bases: 457 - Babe Ruth (1921)
7. RBIs: 191 - Hack Wilson (1930)
8. Doubles: 67 - Earl Webb (1931)
9. Hitting Streak: 56 gms - Joe DiMaggio (1941)

Career Records
1. Wins: 511 - Cy Young (retired 1911)
2. ERA: 1.82 - Ed Walsh (retired 1917)
3. Triples: 309 - Sam Crawford (retired 1917)
4. Doubles: 792 - Tris Speaker (retired 1928)
5. Batting Average: .366 - Ty Cobb (retired 1928)

Pete Rose's 4,256 isn't on the list, but I'll add it as #6
6. Career Hits: 4256 - Pete Rose (retired 1986)

So my question to you is... do you think any of these records will EVER be broken? Is there a current player in baseball right now that you think has a chance to break it?

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I think it’s safe to say that nobody will ever break Cy Young’s career 511 wins or Jack Chesbro’s 41 wins in a season… When Chesbro won his 41 games, he started 51 games and threw 48 complete games… current day pitchers first of all don’t start 41 games in a season and there’s no chance a reliever does that. As for 511 career wins… A pitcher would have to win an average of 25 games a season over a 20 year career… not going to happen. The closest anyone has come anywhere close to be recent was in 1990, Bob Welch had 27 wins


Batting Avg, career .366 by Ty Cobb and a single season of .426 by Nap Lajoie. I think both of these are safe as well… I could see someone breaking the .366 average in a single season… but not in a career. Chipper Jones is having an outstanding season this year and his batting average is only .359. The last time anyone came even remotely close to breaking Lajoie’s record was in 1994 when Tony Gwynn hit .394

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Aug 25, 2008 1:02 PM CDT   0 recs

I think a lot of these records will be "broken"

when they are too old to be considered as modern day records… say , maybe in the year 2050 they will say that modern day records only include records from 1950 and on… and then you will see these dissappear from some lists.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Aug 25, 2008 2:18 PM CDT   0 recs

Some will be broken

Doubles in a season

Runs in a season

Extra base hits in a season

I’d think career doubles

should fall

hard to break – 41 wins in a season – although Steve Carlton may have done it IF he had played for a decent team instead of the Phillies in a bad period for them..

I don’t think Career wins, career triples or season triples will ever be broken.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 25, 2008 3:40 PM CDT   0 recs

Strikeouts?

Is 5714 possible in the foreseeable future?

by Xan on Aug 25, 2008 4:07 PM CDT   0 recs

I don't know...

Santana and Sabathia are by far the closest things to current players that can even dream about doing it… and they are long shots(longer shots than the Astros playoff hopes this season).

Santana is 29 and has 1534. If he can average 230 strike outs a season for the rest of his career(a rough estimate of what he’s been doing lately), he’ll only have to pitch until he is 47 to accomplish this goal.

Sabathia is 27 and has 1339. He’s averaged about 210 the last couple seasons which means if he can average that througout his career, he’ll only have to pitch until he’s 47 to do it…

Maybe a player like Lincecum can do it… I’m saying it’s a stretch at best to say it ever gets broken.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Aug 25, 2008 7:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Doubles

I could see the single season record for doubles falling. Guys like Corey Hart and Ryan Braun from Milwaukee are already at the top of the NL in XBH, and both have the ability to turn deep singles into doubles, esp. Hart. Ian Kinsler is another guy that gets on base a ton, gets a ton of AB’s and plays in a hitters park. Matt Holiday comes to mind based on his home park alone. Chris Young, if he can ever figure out how to up his average has a good shot as well in my mind, as he’ll probably finish with around 40-45 doubles even though his average is around .240, and his OBP is probably .300 or so.

by HighLeveragePerformer on Aug 25, 2008 4:25 PM CDT   0 recs

One that won't fall: triples

Stadiums in the old, old days were so big, and had such deep alleys, outfielders must have had a terrible time covering all that ground. Balls that would normally be doubles would turn into triples only because the players couldn’t get to the balls quickly enough. I don’t have any proof of this, but it wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of stadiums in the late 1800s had outfield walls in certain areas, letting the ball roll for longer than it wouldve had a wall been in place.

by HighLeveragePerformer on Aug 25, 2008 4:29 PM CDT   0 recs

I'm pretty sure that way back when

there were no walls, and a home run was what we consider a inside the park home run(since the park was basically however far you could hit it.

But all of these records are modern day, so they all had walls.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Aug 25, 2008 7:01 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

sorry

i meant to say “no outfield walls in certain areas”

by HighLeveragePerformer on Aug 25, 2008 7:31 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think it's more likely that, eventually, pre-integration records will be regarded like dead-ball era records

- they mean something, but not nearly as much as modern records do. But the records of yesteryear are inevitably colored by the fact that players in the past are worse than those of today. More players are scouted than in the 1920s, more have access to better training, and only the best players make the majors.

The reality is that records that depend on longevity – career hits, homers, etc. – will be broken. Training and medicine will continue to improve. I wouldn’t be surprised if, in twenty years, playing well into one’s forties becomes much more common. That won’t mean that mediocre players will be shattering records simply because they played twenty years. It’ll mean that the best players of tomorrow will be able to play well for another three or four seasons.

Add that to the fact that society’s taboos on artificial enhancement are liable to gradually be lost, and it won’t be surprising if a forty-five year old Jay Bruce is still smashing pitches like he’s thirty.

by Only_A_Lad on Aug 25, 2008 4:30 PM CDT   0 recs

RBI

My bet would be the single season RBI record. We’ve recently seen a couple of guys get half way to 191 at the all-star break.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Sep 19, 2008 10:23 AM CDT   0 recs

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