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Astros Pitching: Digging Deeper

So I got started here explicating some advanced methods of analyzing player performance.  I think that the article on DIPS, while somewhat dense, made a strong case for the amount of luck that gets captured in an ERA.  Over the next week-ish, I'm going to hand calculate the DIPS for our starting pitchers to see how much luck may or may not have had a hand in our less than stellar rotation this season.  However, before I do this (actually because this will take me such a good chunk of time) I wanted to turn this into a series of sorts.

As much as I understand and can know that the BABIP/ERA phenomenon is statistically valid and often empirically sound, there has always been a part of me that's wanted to call B/S.  I'm going to run with that thought until I finish cranking out the numbers and we'll see of some of the other measures I look to can support or cast doubt on what the DIPS-ERA differentials may or may not be.

Today I'm going to roll with a BP Statistic "Quality of Batter Faced."  It looks at the combined BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS of every batter a pitcher has faced.  It can be used a barometer, of sorts, to see whether a pitcher's performance has been legitimate or whether it's the happenstance of facing superb or poor hitting.

 

Pitcher AVG OBP SLG OPS
Roy Oswalt .252 .325 .403 .728
Wandy Rodriguez .256 .339 .405 .744
Brian Moheler .260 .333 .420 .753
Brandon Backe .253 .327 .407 .734
Randy Wolf .252 .326 .391 .717

 

Are the results surprising to anybody else?  Roy has faced the second easiest offense and he had struggled for so long.  My theory, when the hip flared up, was that he was quietly struggling with it all season long -- which his post injury performance I think bolsters that idea.  I'd love to see his pre and post ASB LOB% to see if his out of the stretch pitching is what was hurting him.  But I'm digressing.  Looking at these numbers, Brian Moheler seems to have posted some very legitimate performances, where as one has to keep scratching their head at the Randy Wolf acquisition.  We could consider cutting Wandy some slack and I think it's high time we show Brandon Backe the way to Round Rock.

While I'm not sure of the overall validity of this measure, it's some food for thought.  It'll definitely be something to consider when we look at the DIPS-ERA differentials on our starters.  Perhaps we'll see that Roy has pitched much better than his ERA suggests, but we can also couch that in the context of his quality of batter's faced or vice versa for any of the pitchers above.

**For some context on the numbers, Roy's batter-faced line from last year was: .260/.332/.410/.742.  Wandy: .259/.327/.412/.739.  Also the toughest line for pitcher faced in 2008 (min. 100 IP), belongs to Matt Garza: .269/.340/.425/.765.  The easiest belongs to Adam Eaton: .250/.321/.388/.709.  FYI, Randy Wolf owns the 8th easiest line...iiiiiiisssshhhhh**

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I'm not so sure that the "OPS faced" type stats tell us very much....

at least over a short period, like one season. I wouldn’t give them very much weight in terms of evaluating “pitcher luck.” A batting stat averaged over the season for an opposing player doesn’t tell you how he is hitting at the time the pitcher faces him. Put another way, batters’ season stats may be on an upward or downward trajectory when the pitcher faces him. For instance, for a pitcher facing Carlos Lee this month, a high .800’s OPS doesn’t indicate how tough it is to pitch tohim right now, given his OPS in excess of 1.5 for August. A pitcher facing Berkman in July is credited with facing an OPS near 1.0, even though we know Berkman was scuffling that month, as indicated by his July OPS of .760. Maybe the effect of streaks and slumps average out for the pitcher, but I don’t think the sample size is sufficient to assure that to be the case.

Having said don’t pay attention to the “OPS faced” pitcher stat, I now will be inconsistent and use the stat. So, this is in the “for what it’s worth” category. I thought it would be interesting to compare the actual “OPS against” sustained by the pitchers with the OPS of the batters facing the pitcher.

Pitcher / OPS faced / OPS against

Oswalt .728, .775
Wandy .744, .764
Backe .734, .887
Wolf .717, .772

by clack on Aug 19, 2008 8:26 AM CDT   0 recs

Yeah

I don’t think it’s the best stat ever, but some food for thought. the numbers you add are very interesting…Backe and Wolf especially.

A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by DyingQuail on Aug 19, 2008 8:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Whether or not the stat is valid

it looks like there’s not much difference except for the OPS numbers. From top to bottom, the range of the others is pretty narrow, maybe just noise. I do guess, however, that by pitcher, it certainly looks like Randy Wolf has faced the easiest batters. No big surprise, as playing in the NL West, he certainly has faced much less powerful lineups within his former division.

It takes more than pitching to win a pennant, but not much!

by bwhite2323 on Aug 19, 2008 5:09 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Backe sucks

Wandy and Moehler rock. These numbers just back up the claims I’ve said since day one. The Astros should consider hiring me to choose who should be on the team. :)

by entropic soul on Aug 19, 2008 1:29 PM CDT   0 recs

As long as the deal includes getting Drayton

and Ed Wade out of the process, I’m all for it!

It takes more than pitching to win a pennant, but not much!

by bwhite2323 on Aug 19, 2008 5:04 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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