Houston Astros at Pittsburgh Pirates, 6:05 PM CDT
Houston Astros at Pittsburgh Pirates, Jul 8, 2008 6:05 PM CDT
This game looks like it could turn into a rather high scoring affair pretty quickly. Last time out Brandon Backe went 6.2 innings, allowing 5 earned runs on 7 hits with 2 home runs against the Dodgers on July 3rd. If there is one thing that Backe isn't, it's consistent. He's not consistently bad, or consistently good. He'll have a few good starts, and then a few bad starts... Unfortunately, his record is showing up more in the bad starts because he's lost almost twice as many games as he's won. If I had to guess how he'll do tonight... I'm saying he'll have a good game... He's had 2 bad starts in a row, so I guess you could say he's due.
Snell is pretty much the same story as Backe... inconsistent. Snell started off June with a 4 inning, 6 earned run outing against the Cardinals and then came back with 2 good outings(5 innings, 1 ER against the Diamondbacks and then 6 innings, 1 ER against the Nationals) and then followed up those 2 good outings with 2 bad outings(4 innings, 7 ER against the White Sox and 4 innings, 4 ER against the Blue Jays). One thing Snell has managed to do is keep the ball in the yard(only 7 home runs in 16 games), while Backe isn't(22 home runs in 18 games).
Snell is coming off the 15 day DL due to medial epicondylitis in his right elbow which is basically a medical term for inflamation in the elbow. It has also been called Golfer's Elbow or even Pitcher's Elbow. Link from wikipedia if you care.
I guess Cooper likes Erstad in the 1 hole... anything is better than Bourn.
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Game On
Erstad and Loretta both get out followed by a Berkman walk and a Lee single moving Berkman to 3rd.
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Explain Cubs-A's trade to me.
Cubs get Rich Harden and another solid pitcher for four questionable players. Why would the A’s do this deal?
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 6:26 PM CDT reply actions
If you find an answer
let me know, because my reaction is that the Cubs saw the A’s coming with this trade.
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I went to the A's and to the Cubs threads on the trade
The A’s fans are puking in their beer. The Cubs fans are ecstatic.
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Harden is very injury prone, almost frail...maybe Beane knows something about his future.
Remember that Beane traded Mark Mulder before he completely broke down due to injury. A lot of people thought that Beane got taken to the cleaners on that trade, but he got the last laugh, because Haren turned out to be a great pitcher.
I actually like all of the Cubs players who were traded, not that I think they are great….just that I regard them as undervalued youngish players who might be good gambles. What surprises me is that Beane went for players who are not true prospects (well, maybe Gallagher is), but rather young players who tasted the majors but never established themselves. Matt Murton is a player I would have liked to see the Astros acquire. I would not be surprised if he becomes a very productive outfielder in Oakland. He is undervalued because he is not a slugger, but rather a line drive hitter like a Terry Puhl type. Gallagher is a good young pitcher. Who knows, maybe he is the next Haren.
Brownie just mentioned that
Cooper is still wanting to rest some of his pitcher…
Should we turn the game off now?
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That's why Reineke was called up, apparently.
The Astros bullpen is still too pooped to play, according to Cooper.
Would have been nice to have Jack Wilson
and his .300+ batting average hitting there, I suppose.
by entropic soul on Jul 8, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Reached on the foul and the blooper to center
I guess it’s better than striking out… sorta
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Hopefully Soriano won't be able to play
And they will need another OF’er and that guy will be Carlos Lee. :)
by entropic soul on Jul 8, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like this game may get rained out
or at least rain delayed… The clouds around the stadium in Pittsburgh look pretty bad.
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Instead he grounds out.
Take a pitch, brotha!
by entropic soul on Jul 8, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Wigginton
follows up the big fly with a single of his own… Pirates getting someone active in the bullpen(or so JD says)
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Already?
With Ausmus and the pitcher up? Snell has only given up one run.
by entropic soul on Jul 8, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
those were actually my guesses
but I honestly have no idea other than just guessing… Did Ryan ever start one?
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J.R Richard (1980) . Mike Scott (1986) Roger Clemens (2004)
His all-star game start was J.R. Richard’s next-to-last start. Sad end to a career; plus a nightmarish life afer baseball.
I researched it during the rain delay
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
check out the past Astros allstars
at this website: http://www.astrosdaily.com/history/allstar.html
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you remember
Bill Dawley
Lee May
Mike Cuellar
Jerry Mumfrey
Claude Raymond
Joe Sambito
Le Grand Orange Rusty Staub
Denis Menke
Pete Harnisch
Glenn Davis (i’m glad he made it – he anchored the Astros for a few years but was quickly overshadowed in Astros history by his replacement , a guy named Bagwell.
and my main man , Turk Farrell
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
You are correct sir
They said that Scott did it in 87, but JD thinks he did it in 86 and 87
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Wikipedia says
that Scott made the team in 86, but Dwight Gooden started.
Scott did win the Cy Young that year though.
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I understand the pitcher's confusion
2 outs, facing the Astros pitcher. Ausmus on first. Allowed one run the game.And he ’s taken out of the game!! What gives?
Of course he did not handle it well in the dugout.
And it ’s raining enough that he’d be out anyway!
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Box score now shows 88 pitches
he just came off the DL so he was probably on a pitch count. I can understand Snell’s frustration, but I can also see the team’s point of view.
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Didn't see Snell in the dug out.
Maybe we can get him in a trade if he likes to have tirades after being pulled.
by entropic soul on Jul 8, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Think
he would assault Wade?
Be odd to get 2 pitchers from the Pirates, and both of them assault someone… I guess it’s just their Pirate ways
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Supposedly, Chacon and Snell got into a shoving match or something like that...
in the Pirates’ clubhouse last year. But I guess it wasn’t long lasting, because apparently Snell was pushing the Pirates’ management to re-sign Chacon in the off-season. Snell said Chacon added maturity and calmness to the pitching corps.
He pouted
and banged stuff
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I voted about 25 or so yesterday.
And that’s it so far. Except these i’m doing now.
by entropic soul on Jul 8, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Weather.com
I cannot tell how long this rain will last. The heaviest part will pass through fairly quickly if I read the Weather.com radar right. But there’s a large green area behind the initial front. I can’t tell if that’s continous rain or not. If it’s all rain, it’ll be hours.
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions
JD just said they are expecting about a
2 hour rain delay…
Time to go watch a movie with the wife.
TTFN
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What to do with Backe when game resumes?
After this long a delay some managers would say the delay was so long Backe should not continue to pitch. In that case, maybe a pinch hitter is in order.
On the other hand, Astros pitching is thin now and Astros may be better served letting Backe continue.
What’s the right call?
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions
With a rain delay this long, it is extremely rare for the pitcher to stay in the game.
Those who do try to pitch after the rain delay is over frequently get rocked by the opposing hitters when they return. Given that Backe is coming off elbow surgery, I think the right call is to take him out of the game.
It’s unfortunate that this situation comes at a time when the Astros have close to zero in the bullpen. Reineke is a starting pitcher, so you would think he has the endurance for multiple innings. The question is whether he will be effective.
Game is back on!
Borkowski is coming in to pitch, but Backe is going to bat in his spot(leading off the inning).
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I say leading off the inning
he is leading off the conclusion of the inning.. he is actually not leading off the inning(that was done before the rain delay).
Backe pops out to end the inning.
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JD thinks it's his first MLB AB
we better not give up another damn 1st career MLB hit…
Nope, strikes out
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JD Comments
“I don’t know if I ever liked one of my teammates enough to sit at a computer for an hour and vote for them for the All Star Team”
“TJ Beam could be part of our all spirits team”
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Beam pitches around Berkman
for his 3rd walk of the game and the Carlos Lee goes YARD for a 2 run home run! Line drive shot to left field… It’sa nice!
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Playing in the rain
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 10:45 PM CDT reply actions
Wesley Wright Pitching
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions
another rain delay
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 10:46 PM CDT reply actions
This one should not be too long
maybe 20 minutes is my guess
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs, Cardinals and Brewers all won tonight.
Reds lost (to Cubs)
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 10:57 PM CDT reply actions
I'm about to go to bed
I’m not staying up for this play one inning, wait 20 minutes for rain delay crap..
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Geary now pitching
1st batter grounds out to Wigginton who makes a nice diving play to his left and throws out Michaels for out 2 in the inning.
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Geary also gets the next batter
to end the 6th.
Astros have Erstad, Loretta and Berkman due up in the inning.. I’m outie
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Wish I was there.
There are probably about 200 -300 fans in the park right now. They should all move up to the front row seats.
Two walks and three fly outs for the Astros
Erstad, Loretta, Berkman, Lee and Tejada.
Better than 3 up, 3 down I suppose.
Blum walks
Ball, Wild Pitch, Ball, Intent Ball
Erstad flies out to Jason Bay though. Another running catch by Bay. Getting tired of that dude.
And Pirate Allstar McLouth batting
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Full Count
McClouth singled to right driving in two runs . Pirates lead 4-3.
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 8, 2008 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
It sure is nice
to see the astros game going at midnight.
Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.
it sure isn't nice
to see the astros BLOW a game at midnight!
Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.
Cooper's problem.
The other day, Brocail got himself in some trouble. Coop called in Valverde to save his ass. It didn’t work and we lost.
Today, Brocail gets himself in some trouble. Coop does not call in Valverde to save his ass. It doesn’t work and we (will) lose.
What can you do?
Maybe let Vlavede pitch th e8th
and let Brocail come in to save the day. It probably won’t work either.
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2008 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Brocail can't save himself.
How can he save anyone else?
by entropic soul on Jul 9, 2008 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Loretta, Berkman and Lee
Get a chance to save the day… after leading for about 6 hours. The astros are now losing.
Bourn runs for Lee.
Tejada must have been ordered to not swing on the ifrst pitch cause he doesn’t. And Bourn steals second. So he swings on the second pitch and grounds out TO THE PITCHER.
Nice work guys.
Deja Vu all Over Again
this seems like 2007 repeat
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2008 12:14 AM CDT reply actions
I fell asleep on the game, and figured the Astros had won....
what could I have been thinking?
I checked the chron.com article, and Brocail complains that he hasn’t broke 90 on his FB in 2 weeks. I wonder if overwork is starting to take its effect?

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