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I know things are bad with the Astros lately... but I NEVER would have thought we would have been swept by the Pirates and I NEVER would have thought they would have scored 8+ runs against us in each game to bury us back in the cellar... well, it happened and to the cellar we go again.

I still dont' know what to say about this series against the Pirates.  We started out so good the 1st game, taking a 3-2 lead into the 9th inning where our stud closer could seal the victory for us and take us into game 2 of the series with a 1-0 lead... only to blink and see the 3-2 lead completely gone and the Astros in disbelief as they went home with a 9-3 loss. 

That loss hurt and it showed as we came back in the 2nd game(with probably our strongest starting pitcher on the hill in Wandy Rodriguez) and put up just 2 runs(and those were after the game was out of reach) in what turned out to be an 8-2 smack down. 

And then we come back the next day with one of our only brights spots of the season(Brian Moehler) on the hill to watch him exit the game after pitching just 2 1/3 innings in the hole 5-4. 

I'm trying to find a bright spot in the Astros current situation and I just can't seem to find one.  Sampson has been good lately... and Lee has been good... I guess you could call them bright spots... but there are so many clouds in the Astros sky(okay.. that was really lame) that they are drowning out the bright spots...

So what do you do as an Astros fan?  Do you stop watching the games?  Do you sit through them in agony?  Do sit and hope for change?  Should we "drink the Kool-Aid" and be happy that the Astros are making attempts to better the team now in hopes of making a playoff push?  What do we do?  I wish I knew the answer...  I'm sure like many of you that come here, I'll sit through the games and continue to watch them until game 162 is done... and then I'll start looking forward to next season in which I'll do it all over again.  But... it's painful.  Being an Astros fan right now just isn't much fun. 

I guess there's always tomorrow... wait.. it's an off day!! YES!!!

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I was just looking through the standings in the National League and noticed that the worst team in the NL isn't the Nationals any more.  That title has been taken by the Padres who have won 10 games less than the Astros.  Wanna hear something pathetic... They have about the same chance of making the playoffs as the Astros do.  The Astros are 12.5 games out of 1st place in the NL Central(at the time of this posting) while the Padres are 13 games back.  Hell, you could make a case that the Padres are in better contention for a division title as all of the teams in the NL West suck.  The Astros have to get passed the three best teams in the National League to win the division title.


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The Astros optioned Cassel back to Triple-A today to make room for Randy Wolf.  Wolf is scheduled to start Sunday against the Brewers in Milwaukee.


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I started following the ‘Stros, and baseball in general, around ‘96 (age 15), so I can’t recall the last time the Astros put together consecutive crummy seasons. Yeah, 2000 was bad, but they had the new park, and it was just one off year.

I have to admit it’s hard getting very excited about an Astros game, although I do want to hear as much of Milo as possible while he’s still announcing. I have a weakness for baseball on the radio, what can I say.

It always befuddled me what it must be like to be a Pirates or Royals or Reds fan, where year after year there’s really nothing to look forward to. I guess this is a sample of it. Bitter!

But looking at the (very) big picture, it’s pretty impressive that the Astros have been contenders for pretty much all of the past 12 years.

by Xan on Jul 23, 2008 6:04 PM CDT   0 recs

What do you do as a fan?

What can you do? Just watch and hope for the best, I guess. Undoubtedly many people will quit watching the games. I will still watch them, but perhaps a little more loosely than in the past (e.g., when I came home and saw that the Astros were far behind, I read some stuff and looked at my mail, rather than stay glued to watching the game).

Pick out the little mini-plots and mini-dramas on the team and watch to see what happens. Will Tejada ever resurrect his offensive ability, or is he in permanent decline? Will Bourn ever learn to hit worth a crap? Will Doug Brocail’s arm fall off? Will Randy Wolf pitch well in an Astros’ uniform? Can Berkman get out of his slump and put himself in position for a MVP? etc. Maybe September call up season will be more interesting than usual. Having watched a few Hooks’ games, there are a few players in AA who might be worth a look.

by clack on Jul 23, 2008 6:11 PM CDT   0 recs

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When the big league club falters, I like to shift my focus to the minor leagues.

It’s OK if the team doesn’t do well so long as you get to see sparks of individual greatness.

by AstroAndy on Jul 23, 2008 7:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I find myself

playing games on the computer more often while watching the ‘Stros games than I used to…

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jul 23, 2008 10:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm usually

not a guy who jumps off the wagon when my team is doing badly: I stuck through all of last season, because I thought we had hope with a few guys (Anderson, Towles, Sarfate, even Adam Everett coming back and Luke Scott getting more PT) coming up in September and providing sparks. But the way Ed Wade blew that all up, I remained interested in seeing how the Stros would go, but just not as interested to watch and follow the team as religiously. Same happened in 98-99, 99-00 as a Mavs fan (originally from Dallas y’know): they suffered through a bunch of losing seasons, but those couple of seasons, they had exciting talents in Nowitzki and Nash, and I loved watching them play, even though they weren’t winning consistenly yet. And earlier this year when they traded for Jason Kidd, it just wasn’t the same.

by jonthefon on Jul 24, 2008 4:55 AM CDT   0 recs

well

if you view this whole season as a big shit sandwich, then the series wins against teams like the Red Sox and the Cubs are bright spots. we’ve got two Mets series, three more Cubs series, one more home series against the Cardinals, and a home series against the Braves. maybe just taking a few of those will be worth sticking around the rest of the season for.

Pence, Bourn, and Towles will be people I’ll keep paying attention for. our future looks a lot brighter if those guys can start to figure it out a little better. i’d also like reason to believe that Tejada is just having a down year and isn’t really in the slippery slope back end of his career. i guess what i’m looking for is glimmers of hope for next year. we’re going to have a lot of the same faces back, and i’d like to think that with a few tweaks (particularly in the rotation), we can put together a competetive team in ‘09. of course, i’ll always keep watching. i’m just too much of a sports junkie not to keep coming back for more. every game offers a chance at the thrill of victory, and it’s just too tempting, no matter how crappy they’ve been playing, not to tune in.

by littlevisigoth on Jul 24, 2008 8:21 AM CDT   0 recs

Next year

Usually, when the team is down you can look forward to seeing young players get a shot, raising hope for the next season. You get to evaluate the new talent and speculate on who’s going to make it and the impact they will have. This is especially true for the pitchers.

But as I survey the Astro farm system, I can only despair. I don’t see any serious prospects there, especially pitching. The best of the lot have already had their shot and failed. The Astros are the oldest team in the league, and next year they’ll just be older.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Jul 24, 2008 11:22 AM CDT   0 recs

See that's a problem

I don’t think we’ll see any of the young guys… I fear our team will look almost exactly as it is this season.. next season

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jul 24, 2008 12:33 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Paulino may still pitch in September, if things go well for him....

I think there are some players in AA who should be considered for September call ups. Having watched some of the games, I don’t think that the Corpus roster is quite as dismal as we think. There are some pitchers on the AA roster who might make decent relievers, at the least, in the majors. The downside to calling up players from that level, though, is that it may force the team to put them on the 40 man roster earlier than they otherwise have to.

by clack on Jul 24, 2008 1:36 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Work on what you can

The Astros need to make sure their fundamentals are set – fileding, baserunning, etc.. – and see what they can teach the younger guys that are already in the majors. See if Bourn really can be a player not just a speed/defense guy. What do the pitchers not named Oswalt have? Can Pence learn to keep his front shoulder in and not always try to pull the ball to left? And what about Pence learning to throw? He has the strangest style I think I have ever seen from an OFer.
Other than that we hope for a miracle. The Astros are an old, bad, baseball team with not much to look forward to.
And I don’t care about the 40 man roster. Call up anybody who might have a future and find out. They don’t have much to lose right now. They can’t fall below last place.

My friends suggested I see someone about my baseball problem. So I made an appointment but just ended up helping the doctor with his fantasy team.

by TBurford on Jul 24, 2008 2:22 PM CDT   0 recs

For the past several years

we have consistently started a lineup that gave away 3 of our 9 batting slots. It was, as a rule, Everett, Ausmus, and pitcher. This year we have settled back into the same situation. Now it’s Bourn, catcher, and pitcher. So the offense is realistically not much better. Add to this the disappointing pitching – the overall staff is not as good AND it’s injured – and you have the makings of a last place team. No surprises at all.

Outstanding pitching plus hitting for consistency (a touch of power is nice but not absolutely necessary) have been the keys to success for, oh, a hundred years or so. How long will it take Drayton to figure it out? Answer that question and you have the answer as to when our next contending team will begin to emerge.

It takes more than pitching to win a pennant, but not much!

by bwhite2323 on Jul 24, 2008 5:31 PM CDT   0 recs

Dead end of the lineup

The dead bats at the end of the line up hurt the ones on both sides. The batter in the 6th spot is never going to see a pitch and runners on base are not going to score. And the batters at the top of the order will often come up with one or two out and no one on. You can get by with a bad hitting pitcher in the lineup, especially if he can bunt a little, but with two guys hitting .150 in front of him, you can’t even bunt.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Jul 25, 2008 1:45 AM CDT   0 recs

and then there's

Tejada and Pence not doiing much either lately.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 25, 2008 12:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

On the looking towards the future front

Dydalewicz is officially signed (finally… i think there was a false report that he had signed shortly after the draft).

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5907506.html

If I’m not mistaken, Davidson and Seaton (3rd round and Supplemental 3rd round, respectively) are the only two of the top ten picks still left unsigned, and Ortiz (grain of salt alert!) says that at least Seaton is close to signing.

from his blog eariler this week:

“Bobby Heck sent me a text message yesterday saying nothing was new. With that said, however, I have on good authority that Seaton and the kid from the Austin area, whose name is very difficult to spell and I won’t look it up so I can answer as many questions as possible, are close. I will be shocked if those two kids aren’t signed soon.”

Dydalewicz is the kid from Austin he’s referring to.

by littlevisigoth on Jul 25, 2008 3:54 PM CDT   0 recs

Austin American Statesman had the premature report of Dydalewicz signing....

not sure what caused that. But good to see that he signed. The same Statesman article said that he can throw in the low/mid 90’s.

by clack on Jul 25, 2008 4:51 PM CDT   0 recs

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