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St. Louis Cardinals at Houston Astros, 6:05 PM CDT

St. Louis Cardinals at Houston Astros, Jun 7, 2008 6:05 PM CDT



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@ Houston Astros Red-star

Saturday, Jun 7, 2008, 6:05 PM CDT
Minute Maid Park

Adam Wainwright vs Shawn Chacon

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2008 - Adam Wainwright 5-3 12 12 1 0 0 0 86.2 73 33 30 9 19 58 3.12 1.06


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2008 - Shawn Chacon 2-1 12 12 0 0 0 0 69.1 67 38 34 12 30 49 4.41 1.40



I find it at least a little odd that the 2 players on the Astros that have typically played every day in the past unless hurt, have both been given days off in the last 2 games(Tejada yesterday and Lee today)...  I know Tejada doesn't like sitting so I'm sure sitting for 2 games so far this season didn't make him really happy yesterday.  I kind of thought that maybe Matsui would get a rest tonight since Loretta had such a nice game last night... but that didn't happen either.

As most of us seen coming with hearing Cooper's recent comments, Bourn is batting 7th tonight and Pence batting 1st.  That's definitely a move int he right directly.  Nice to see Erstad get another start today as well.

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Lee has been struggling at the plate....

just like Tejada. So I assume Cooper believes that a rest might do both some good. I like Erstad in LF. He has been productive at the plate and he will provide some defense in LF that Lee doesn’t. In fact, this game has a damned good defensive outfield.

by clack on Jun 7, 2008 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

The Pujols line drive

scared me off the bat… It looked like it was hit much deeper than it was.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pence

1st pitch, single up the middle. F-patience!

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Poo-holes and his smirk.

Someone should knocked him in the teeth for that. Seriously, not to hurt the man, but when is the last time one of our pitchers went high and in to him? He will continue to own us until he gets beat inside. How about a “brush-back” every now and then?

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Not sure it would do much

There are some hitters that brushing them off the plate might be effective… I’m just not real sure how well that would work against Pujols…

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

...plus Ausmus is way too scared to call it up and in. We’ll see next AB…

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had a feeling

an Ausmus jab was forthcoming..

So what do you think about Towles going down and Quintero coming up?

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

The move was way long overdue, but a good one. I have no problems with Q so far.

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

over the years of watching the Astros pitch to Pujols...

it seems that part of their game plan is to pitch him inside underneath the wrists. he will swing and miss sometimes when it is well executed. but it’s also dangerous, and I’ve seen Pujol punish the Astros after a couple of swings and misses when ball drifts back toward the plate.

by clack on Jun 7, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Command is always important...

but, changing locations in/out disrupts a hitter’s anticipation. Of course if you can’t locate then you lose. I have noticed in recent games Poo has been serving those outside pitches all over the outfield. Bust him in just to make him aware!

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

hehe

I actually heard someone call LaRussa a genius over the past week… and it was by someone that I generally feel is very smart when it comes to sports..

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe his actions seem unothodox...

because he’s always drunk. Not that I have anything against being drunk, but let’s keep it off the streets. :p

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

If anyone is a fan of Josh Hamilton

He’s on the cover of Sports Illustrated this week.

Not sure if they sell these on the stands, though. ???

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

He's a beast

I’m not a fan of his, but you have to at least admire what he’s doing so far this year.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pence is a dirty dirty boy

reminds me of someone else we all love…

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

he's on my fantasy team :(

I wish he would lose me points tonight

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great.

That may as well be 5 since we are facing Wainwright.

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone see where Erstad was

on the replay of Glaus’ HR? almost all the way to dead CF, just in case there was a carom off the wall.

El Caballo wouldn’t have been w/i 100 ft of that spot. that contract is going to suck for a long time.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wise Men?

Does the “Wise Men” reference refer to ALL Astros bench and role players or only to three of them?

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 7, 2008 6:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I think they used to include Cruz Jr....

but i don’t know if Abercrombie can carry that designation, at 28 years old.

by clack on Jun 7, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Darin Erstad

Was an excellent off-season acquisition. He just made a nice easy catch on the left field foul line that I took for ganted would drop for a hit.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 7, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

This could be a long one

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply actions  

4-0 Cardinals

Or 20-0.

Will Chacon be pulled again?

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 6:35 PM CDT reply actions  

...and goodnight.

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 6:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Cardinals hitting Chacon really hard

7-0 already on balls hit a long way

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 7, 2008 6:38 PM CDT reply actions  

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?

This is just ridiculous. This team blows.

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow... rough inning

That’s 2 straight rough outings in a row for Chacon :(

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

hmm

And he’s batting in the 2nd

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wainwright with second hit.

And it seems like three Astros gloves touched the ball or came close to touching it.

by clack on Jun 7, 2008 6:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Because you know...

Wainwright is just so good at everything.
He’s a baseball god.

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was a strategy

Matsui gave up on the ball, so Wainwright has to run the bases and get tired out. gotta think man

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout

Astros know they are supposed to hit the ball, right?

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Bourn bunt single

pretty decent bunt, even if Glaus picks it clean, Bourn probably still ends up safe.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 7:12 PM CDT reply actions  

we're in serious silver lining time now

but it was nice.

Bourn doesn’t seem to have the ability to deaden the ball when he bunts though. That one was better, but it still had a pretty good pace on it. And the few bunts I’ve seen him put down successfully have been pushed to third. gotta be able to drag it as well.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're right

he did bunt it too hard, but it was in a good area… hell, with his speed, any bunt not foul is a decent bunt(pretty much)

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

seemed like Glaus was playing in

but pretty far off the line, so the bunt’s position down the line meant he had to come both in and towards the 3b line. like you said orig though, it was a good bunt. glaus didn’t field it b/c he tried to pick it up w/ the bare hand and that was the only chance he would have had to throw him out. hopefully michael can build on that.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stros Bro

is having a day in the fantasy league.

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I benched Chacon today..

not because I wanted to,but I got in on the action too late and it was either Shawn Chacon pitching, or Andy Sonnanstine . Sonnanstine is 6-3, so you can see why I went with him.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

whoever has Zambrano is probably pissed

although I’m not sure how many of those 7 runs ended up being earned.

I happened to catch the inning during the Dodger-Cub game this afternoon where the Dodgers put up 5 against Zambrano. It was surreal to watch the action and seeing the Cubs fielders dropping outs and throwing the ball away and the whole time Tim McCarver was chattering away blithely. Hilarious.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

hindsight good call.

It seems like that league is fairly competitive. My bro is Glenn Davis Mustache. Is there anything at stake for the winner?

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

not much

free t-shirt of your choice from here

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats cool.

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like???

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pence went yard

It still hasn’t landed :)

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, that's something at least...

Let’s have that seven more times this inning. :p

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tejada lines out

more than anyone I’ve ever seen.

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

If anyone cares..

they are “giving away” a 5 day free trial of MLB.TV on Astros.com

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Wright's pitching?

Sheeet. Didn’t notice. Maybe I’ll get some points today afterall.

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep

perfect inning as well

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

wainwright imploded in the last game he pitched

after the 6th i think. doubt we’re putting up 7 runs off him, but would be nice to rough him up.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions  

there has been some criticism that LaRussa overworked wainwright....

a lot of consecutive game with 120-125 pitches. LaRussa’s tendency to leave Wainwright in too long came home to roost in that last game.

Now Wainwright leaves with some kind of finger injury…blister maybe?

by clack on Jun 7, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

one of those

even w/ the extreme closeup in HD the Astros broadcast gave us you couldn’t really tell.

I didn’t see a blister, but my medical degree from Guatemala got lost in the mail, so I can’t make official diagnosis just yet.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

LaRussa strikes me as the kind of guy

that would break his pitcher’s finger if he couldn’t pitch anymore. I mean, not really, but he just seems like some bastard movie villian that would take things out on his own henchmen. :p

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Wainwright leaving the game.. either cramp in his finger or a blister. Good for the ‘Stros

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know

i just figured w/ the cards-cubs connection it was appropriate. i still didn’t care enough to lookup carry’s name to see if i spelled it right or not.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

well?

7-1 in the 6th

man on 2nd, nobody out and a guy coming in cold from the Cardinals’ pen.

our situation has improved slightly

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

that's tough for Erstad

wait thru the whole at bat and come back w/ 2 strikes.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

yep

Easiest strike out of McCellan’s life

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

CMON LANCE

I know you’re Brainchild Jr. but you gotta hustle more than that

geez

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

that's the kind of thing Rollins got benched for the other day

and to be honest, I’d halfway say Coop should pull him after this inning. I don’t know, that just pisses me off.

Wonder what Romero was doing?

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Radio guys say LaRussa doesn't have a lot of friends.

No shit. He’s a former law student, a bastard manager and drinks and drives.

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply actions  

he endorses roids too.

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

IF fly for out 2...

I guess it could have been a double play ball :(

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

SS should have tried for 2nd

prob had a better play.

we’ll take a cheap run.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Pence

IF single deflected off McClellan.. barely safe but the runs cores

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

our fastest guy is apparently asleep

and doesn’t break for home on a dropped 3rd strike.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions  

interesting idea

it means you’re burning at least 2 players (unless you do something crazy like sending Lee to LF after he hits, move Ausmus to 2B and put Erstad behind the plate—I think he might be our 3rd catcher). We already used Abercrombie, so we would be pretty depleted on the bench.

with the way Carlos is going, there’s not a lot of hope for something good, but probably more than Matsui.

what the hell, it would have been fun.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ehh..........

Three pitch strike outs are ridiculous.

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

NOOOO

Not Villareal vs Pujols!!!!!!

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions  

talk about dodging a bullet

wonder if fat albert’s leg is bothering him. doesn’t seem quite himself yesterday and today.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

would have been a sweet DP

helped by the fact that their sea turtle was going down the line

1B Ump was in a bad spot to make that call

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Terrible call.

No way Lance pulled off early.

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

He better pay us back

With a call that goes our way in these last few innings. :)

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions  

didn't hurt us

FB to LF, out of the inning. 7-3 cards

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Wainwright's finger

Was a blister…. LaRussa takes him out back.. suddenly it’s “sprained”. :p

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe that's really the answer

to Isringhausen’s mysterious hand injury

Tony “Thumbs” LaRussa

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

if he had the full Casino setup

I’m pretty sure that Scott Rolen’s eyeballs would have been popped out by that vise a long time ago

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

good job miggy

chipping away

7-4 Cards

Brownie’s excited

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Tejada Home run

Looks like it was caught by an old friend named Ralph who runs a softball league in the west houston area.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions  

cool

he was perfectly positioned to make the play. good coaching.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 more homers this inning!

COME ON!!!!! Berkman, Erstad, Wiggles… all homer capable. :p

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions  

ridiculous

STOP FIRST PITCH OUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice play by Flores

on a good bunt attempt by Erstad

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

wish i could put money on this

a HR to any part of the Crawford Boxes sparks instant whining from the Cards board about the dimensions of MMP

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions  

perez is tough

he’s warming up in the ‘pen

maybe he’ll be wild tonight. at least they had to use their pen.

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

whoops

pujols up, w/ runners on 1st and 2nd.

IBB him anyway .

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Byrdak needs a band for his specs

They’ve fallen off several times. Is it ok to call him Nerdak?

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

JD is jinxing Sampson

talking about “not throwing a crippled fastball to Pujols”

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

oh my

it looked like it was off the end of the bat when he hit it. didn’t think it would go, but he made it close.

baseball is fun

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Poo 0-7 this series so far.

Pence was the right-handed Ted Williams in 2007.

by backstop8 on Jun 7, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

what a scary ending to that inning.

tough to watch on TV, because you just assume it will be a HR when Erstad is up against the LF wall.

by clack on Jun 7, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Bourn HR...err make it a double

Fan interference… looked like its still a home run. The fan definitely reached over, but missed it.. hit the top of the fence and went over.. s/b a home run… but no instant replay, so it’s a double.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

that guy should have been ejected for that stupid hat

they guy reached over, but missed it. should have been a HR.

so the moron cost us a run

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the knock on Perez

tended to be wild.

if he gets past that, the Cards figure he’ll replace Isringhausen

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Ausmus single

3-4 on the night.. no outs and runners on 1st and 2nd

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Bah

Loretta watched 2 stikes on a 1-2 count… he should have been rung up the pitch before…

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 7, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

c'mon sampson

don’t give them another run. need an easy GB or a K here

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

damnit

too bad he had to slide on the catch. might have had him

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Matsui Double

just to the right of the Crawford Boxes. good start

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

we're working on it

tejada swings at a bad pitch. up and in and jams himself. weak grounder to 3b

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

berkman grounds out

two down. going meekly in the 9th so far

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

we've had a lot of wasted oppo's tonight

15 hits, only 4 runs. offense looking 20% less anemic, than our past road trip

carlos lee on deck to hit for pitcher, if Erstad reaches

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

erstad walks

el caballo up w/ 2 on. even a HR now only brings us within one

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee FB to CF on the first pitch

game over.

keeping up our cardinals pattern of the year. win the first, lose the next two. see if we can change that tomorrow.

Lohse v. ??? I don’t know for us

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIRST PITCH OUT!!!

&$x%x(x%x#(x%x#*()^#(*)&#)*(&#()

by entropic soul on Jun 7, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

common theme tonight

those 3 after Flores came in the game, in the 7th? really hurt. also, not getting anything after Matsui’s AB w/ the bases loaded

by lnewcomer on Jun 7, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

LaRussa press conference....

on the Astros’ post game show. Cardinals showed such great character, blah, blah, blah…Astros just had a bunch of flukey hits, blah, blah blah.

by clack on Jun 7, 2008 9:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Just wait until he ruins a family

because of his drinking and driving.
Fuck that dude.
No respect.

by entropic soul on Jun 8, 2008 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

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