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Houston Astros at Baltimore Orioles, 6:05 PM CDT

Houston Astros at Baltimore Orioles, Jun 17, 2008 6:05 PM CDT



Current Series

3 game series vs Orioles @ Oriole Park at Camden Yards

Tue 06/17

Brandon Backe vs Garrett Olson

Mostly clear. Winds blowing in from left field at 5-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 80.

6:05 PM CDT
Wed 06/18

Brian Moehler vs Jeremy Guthrie

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing out to right field at 10-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 70.

6:05 PM CDT
Thu 06/19 6:05 PM CDT


W-LGGSCGSHOSVBSIPHRERHRBBKERAWHIP
2008 - Brandon Backe 4-8 14 14 0 0 0 0 77.1 86 45 43 18 35 56 5.00 1.56


W-LGGSCGSHOSVBSIPHRERHRBBKERAWHIP
2008 - Garrett Olson 5-2 9 9 0 0 0 0 49.2 54 25 25 5 19 32 4.53 1.47



Bourn back in the 1 hole... I guess his 7 hits in his last 19 AB's did that.  I would have put Erstad at 1st if they are going to DH Lance instead of Blum.  I'm assuming Berkman is DH'ing because of his calf... otherwise I see NO reason to DH Lance. He's already mentioned that he doesn't like being the DH and Carlos Lee is a much better option at DH(due to his defensive flaws). 

Astros have lost 14 of their last 17.  Hopefully the trip to the Baltimore is good for them. 

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My initial reaction was the same that Erstad at 1st base...

is better than Blum. But now I see that Olson is a lefty, and that explains why Blum starts over Erstad. Not that I think Blum is that great a hitter against lefties. Loretta would have been a better choice at 1st base, IMO. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong by a Blum HR.

by clack on Jun 17, 2008 5:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It sounds good an all

given the fact that Blum is a switch hitter, therefore theoretically, he should be better against a LH Pitcher than a Erstad(a left handed batter) would be… but look at the stats.. Blum’s average is .10 higher over the last 3 years.. not much to write home about

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JD's Scouting report on Olson

Says he’s easy to run against.. odd for a lefty(which JD also mentions)

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by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bourn is the best hitter in June

How pathetic could we possibly be

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by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay 1-0 lead

I’m assuming Bourn stole at least 1 base? I missed all but the last pitch of the Matsui at bat with my son.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No steal

Olsen threw 2 wild pitches. He’s a rookie coming off a bad start …

by mokulen on Jun 17, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Single by Lance

Lance is hitting .244 in June(before that hit). His avg is down to .360

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee Pops out to end the inning

Berkman seems to be running okay, on the pop up he made it about 3/4 to 3rd before the SS caught it.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1st pitch off backe

Single up the middle by Roberts :(

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by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice job by Backe

stranding the lead off single at 1st..

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pretty thin crowd in B-more tonight

I’m curious how long the goodwill will last for Houston fans. We haven’t had a good season since the world series year, yet the team is still drawing well. Part of that is probably due to the fact that one mistake Drayton hasn’t made (and he’s made plenty) is to jettison popular players like Oswalt, Berkman or Pence. That plus the Biggio tribute season last year have kept the numbers up.

But it can’t last forever. I imagine most people on this board are die hard enough to keep going to games regardless of whether the home team is winning or not, but that’s not the vast majority of fans (I’m not blaming them for that). I hope we can get back to winning before the fans drift away, but it’s going to be hard to do in the next couple of years unless something drastic happens.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea, and unfortunately

the typical Houston area sports fan isn’t as “fanatical” about their sports teams as many other sports cities…

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tend to discount the idea that one fan base

is more fanatical, better fans, less fair-weather, etc.

it’s mostly anecdotal evidence, with little attempt to control for other factors that might influence said sentiment (diversity of entertainment in the area, history of success, size of metro area, etc)

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be back in a little while

my son wants to build a “castle

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by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Single.

See, it worked. .. Oh wait.. he isn’t on our team anymore. :p

by entropic soul on Jun 17, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

I’ll always remember the way he was announced at MMP.

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by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man, jones is pretty tall

i have him on my fantasy team, but hadn’t seen him play

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 6:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JD - "even though Quintero doesn't run well"

I’d like to hear an announcer just say, “is as slow as Christmas”

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Berkman

... ugh.. Need his defense.

by entropic soul on Jun 17, 2008 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and it bites us

runner should have been an out. damn

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geoff Blum just made us

wish Lance Berkman was at first tonight.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 17, 2008 6:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Blum has little recent experience fielding 1st base.

And that makes me question Cooper’s decision to start him at 1st base even more (I wasn’t aware of that when I posted earlier). Blum had 1 inning at 1st base earlier in the season, one game at 1st base for San Diego last year, and no time at 1st base in 06. The last time he had any significant time at 1st base was in 2005 with the White Sox. A guy who is that rusty fielding 1st base is more likely to make a defensive mistake. Erstad or Loretta would have been better possibilities for 1st base.

by clack on Jun 18, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-1

Home run Huff..

Good for my fantasy team… Baaaad for the Astros

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2-1

runner was on first

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

doh

I missed that playing w/the kiddo

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geoff Blum miscue leads to a score

as Aubrey Huff homers
2-1 Orioles

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 17, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW

Have the Astros looked more pathetic than that inning.
It’s just sickening.

by entropic soul on Jun 17, 2008 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we're going to set a record for popups tonight

both teams combined. someone alert Guinness!

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or just drink Guinness!

75% of the Earth's surface is covered by water. . . the other 25% by Michael Bourn

by Danyah on Jun 17, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man..

It’s very hard to be a fan of a team that’s on their way to being 3 for their last 18…..

:p

by entropic soul on Jun 17, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It could be worse...

we could be in last place… err.. well, at least the Reds are losing as well.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-1 Orioles

Making it look easy

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 17, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's stupid

They should fine themselves for being dumb.

by entropic soul on Jun 17, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q-Ball gets a hit.

Uh.. Michael Mourn to the rescue?

by entropic soul on Jun 17, 2008 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh my goodness

MBourn gets a hit in a RBI situation. that’s amazing.

might have been out if the catcher manages to catch the ball.

3-2 birdies

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why don't we have ball girls?

Houston has plenty of local talent.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

meh

I think the Astros already have enough non-baseball related attractions in MMP… I mean we have cows swinging on our foul poles..

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matsui!! HAI YA!

Nice double scoring 2 putting the ‘Stros back in the lead

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

way to go matsui

eventually i’m going to have to stop being sarcastic about this “rally”. 3 runs on 4 hits.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTG Kaz!

Sup fellas.

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whaddup!

Texans start camp today?

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soon... very soon.

This lull is driving us nuts… stir crazy even

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

surely not

preseason camp already??? that’s not until august isn’t it?

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something like that

The team just finished with OTAs – They need to get the down from 84 to 80 by the start of camp. Roster cut speculation is fueling most of the boards right now.

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope we don't relive the Curse of Boselli

with this Colvin signing. we’re due for some good luck.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Contract figures still to come

I’ve been one of the only in the texancentric blogosphere who has openly expressed his doubts about Colvin… It has shades of Green all over it.

Most are fat and happy with the thought. Meh. He’s 31 and coming off an injury.

I just hope we didn’t break the bank. Still waiting on those contract figures.

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Astros lead 4-3

Nice at bat for Matsui – 9 pitches then doubles home two runs

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 17, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they just started playing the P.I.M.P song

in the background when Berkman was coming up to the plate. not sure why, but I can’t imagine a song and a player more ill-suited to one another.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I must be lame

because I have NO idea what song that is :)

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

50 cent and snoop dogg

it was popular a couple years ago i think. you didn’t miss much.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This should be fun...

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have Albers benched in my fantasy team

so he’s sure to pitch at least 4 innings of shut out no hit ball :(

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well... at least we are winning.

I guess that’s good until Backe gives up another dinger.

by entropic soul on Jun 17, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Came close to calling it on the first batter

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I meant the second batter (Huff)

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he had just now on Huff

just hung up there a little too long

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else listening to the radio?

Dolan and Raymond sound like they hit the pub before the game. Very liberal with their coverage of the game. Banter is more “lively” than normal.

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Heh

They’re alright. I think this current tailspin has them on the verge of delirium.

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know I would be pretty liberal if I was covering the game.

Like.. &#%x%x mother% Bourn stop popping the *&#x%x ball up!!!!1

by entropic soul on Jun 17, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

GO TO YOUR HOME!

El Caballo!

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Would be nice if he'd

turn this par season into something worth the 100 million we’re paying him.

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by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like him to jack up his stats in the next month

so we can fool some AL team into trading for him.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if he jacks up his stats

the Astros could move back into contention(assuming the Cubs actually lose some games)

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that contract is going to be an anchor around our necks for the next 4 years

I’d gladly swap a tenuous chance at the postseason this year to get our from under it dollar-wise and free up the position for someone else.

besides, it’s not just the Cubs who have to lose. The Brewers may not be entirely for real, but they’re better than us and while I continue to doubt the Cardinals, they have a huge cushion on us right now.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

EL CABALLO!

Giddy up Horsey!

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Camden Yards

was around when Kent Hrbek was still playing? JD was just talking about players who hit the ball off the warehouse in BP. I’m old.

now JD and Brownie are talking about the rent on Monopoly properties. Talk about delirium

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry if this was covered

Buy why isn’t Carlos DHing? I would figure that Lance would be better at first than Geoff… Would be nice to have Darin in the lineup. Or am I off base?

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Because of Lances

Calf I presume… I haven’t really read anything yet though

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by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

possibly Lance's leg/shin injury

can’t remember if I’ve heard the official explanation. that’s what Coop gave as the reason for sitting Berkman in Sunday’s game.

also, we’re all still pretending that Lee can play LF, so DH’ing him for all the AL games would be acknowledging the elephant in the room.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see I see.

Thanks for the insight.

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coop's managing again

failed hit and run, but blum still manages to steal the base. got lucky.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How short do you all think Coop's leash is getting?

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he will finish the year

unless there is more open player revolt than some of the mutterings that have gone on this year. I can’t see Drayton firing him after less than a year on the job.

Objectively, it doesn’t make that much difference. He hasn’t done really well as a manager, but the team isn’t built to contend.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scott is having the type of year

many of us thought he could have with a full time starters job…

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, it's a little sad

definitely a serviceable outfielder.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man - he showed flashes didn't he.

Too bad he couldn’t nail down that OF slot. He always seemed a day late and a dollar short. Just look at that epic 18 (?) inning playoff game with the Braves… I remember he just missed ending that one with a line shot that went just foul.

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luke Scott was not given a chance with the Astros

I was mad about it all season

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 17, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luke was given a chance

But he a lot of bad luck with injuries.

by mokulen on Jun 17, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No really

he was injured a lot!

But yeah as soon as they acquired Lee, I knew it was a matter of when not if he would be traded. So I kind of agree but not really. :P

by mokulen on Jun 17, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All NL Central teams

either tied or winning… well, except for the Reds.

by entropic soul on Jun 17, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Backe nearing 00 pitches

He’s looks like he is laboringto me. I bet this is his last inning.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 17, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Backe won't finish the Sixth

Cooper must have seen what I saw. Backe is out of the game with two outs in the sixth.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 17, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like pulling Backe here

pitch count is climbing and JD has been pointing out that he’s missing his spots.

bring in Marlo

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice job spaz

probably didn’t have to jump but it made it look more dramatic

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They said Roberts was hitting 30 points higher vs lefties

But Coop went with conventional wisdom and called for Byrdak.

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

in his career, he's much better as a left-handed batter

this year he’s better from the right side. lies, damn lies and statistics

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hunter Pence has been quiet at the plate

But made a nice catch in right to end that threat.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 17, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like they booed Miggy a little bit

I figure they’ll be giving it to him as this series goes on… especially if he does anything remotely productive. From soft boos to outright jeering

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Opposite field HR by Marka-whatever

5-4 astros

leading off the inning against Byrdak

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

boy am I glad they killed their rally

by starting with a leadoff HR instead of a base hit. can’t tell you how happy I am

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Homeruns given up

Houston Astros have given up 102
Worst team in that regard in the AL are the MinnesotaTwins with 83

Sonofabitch.

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

did he toss Brocail?

it sure looked liked it

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

guess not

he’s thrown 3 pitches in the same spot. two were balls, the last one after he yelled at the ump was a strike.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What????

Out of control Umpire

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jun 17, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wild last batter

ends on an appeal to the 1b ump for a called strike on check swing.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing

I think the ump THOUGHT Brocail said some kind of “magic words” and Quintero managed to convince the ump that he heard him wrong, or something. B/c looking at it again, it really did look like the ump walked out there and tossed him.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Abercrombie was out by MILE

even on a v. high pitchout throw

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We've been getting nailed a lot lately...

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by SOLIS on Jun 17, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, wonder where you could find stats

that show our CS % throughout the season. it’s taken a beating lately.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

splits

Mar/Apr: 25 SB 8 CS
May: 37 SB 9 CS
Jun: 10 SB 8 CS

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rare walk for Hunter

on a close pitch. lots of close pitches on the outside corner in the last few batters.

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and the bleeding continues

astros have a 5 run night. should be enough offense, but brocail/valverde breakdown and we find another way to lose (gave away another out on the bases tonight too).

by lnewcomer on Jun 17, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Six straight llosses for Astros.

I don’t know anyway tto sugar coat this loss, or the Astros’ play in general.

by clack on Jun 17, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did they really play that bad?

This felt like a win and then Valverde gave up that double to Mora. It was a great at bat. Oh well.

by mokulen on Jun 17, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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