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First off... am I the only one glad today is an off day?  I hate to say it, but I really don't want to watch the Astros right now... 

And to the point.  A lot of people are calling for Cooper's head now.  I'm not sure how Drayton feels about Cooper, but I know in the past, that he's seemed to have let fan interest have at least a little say in what he's done with the team. 

The latest issue involving Cooper is him sitting 3 of the Astros regular starters in the 3rd game of a series in which we'd already lost 2 games and were going into an off day the next game.  It also doesn't help that the game they all 3 sat was the biggest turn out of the year(I heard there were about 43,000 people at Sundays game).  The reason for sitting Berkman was stated that he is having issues with his calf and Cooper thought it would be best to give him 2 days off... Berkman said that he could have played and that if he couldn't then he would be on the DL. 

Roy Oswalt has also stated publicly that he didn't agree with them sitting.

"We didn't have the original team in," Oswalt said. "You've got one of the finest hitters in baseball in Lance [Berkman]. Ty Wigginton has been swinging the bat unbelievable. [Kazuo] Matsui gets on and works the count for us. That's three guys that could have gotten us on the board. I'm not taking anything away from any of the other guys; it's just that when you're regulars are not in, it seems like there's not as high intensity of play."

I've stated many times that I don't like seeing my best players sit.. and Cooper seems to sit them too much.  Tejada never sit before this season unless he was on the DL and he's already sat out at least 2 games this season.  Carlos Lee is pretty much the same and he's sat out multiple games. 

So what do you think?  Is Cooper's time in Houston coming to an end?  Do you think changing Managers is a worth while change? 

Honestly, I don't think Cooper is a very good manager... he makes a lot of coaching decisions that I wouldn't have made.  Maybe that is because he is a good manager and that's why I'm stating my opinion on this blog instead of coaching a big league team.  Or maybe he just isn't a good manager.  Who knows...  I don't really think that a managers decision will typically result in a team winning or losing a game(unless of course the manager is making multiple stupid decisions), so I'm not sure that changing the coach could change the outcome of the season much... but maybe it could.  I don't know. 

I do think that the managers main job at being a manager is putting the best team on the field... every game they play... and I don't think that is what is happening. 

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And yes, I’m very glad it’s an off day. I hate to sound so fair-weather, but having been in attendance at the worst home shut-out since the Nixon administration (per Zachary Levine), I definitely need a break from the Astros. I was discussing our upcoming schedule with one of the docs I work with today. He is a huge Red Sox fan, so he is very sympathetic with our plight of doing interleague with the AL East. Anyway, basically looking at the schedule, I calculated that if the rest of our interleague matchups go as well as this latter one, we could be sitting at 16 games below .500 before the end of June. I really think McLane’s desire to have the Yankees and Red Sox come to town may backfire on him—if we continue to get our asses handed to us, 43,166 people in the park ain’t gonna happen very often anymore this year. Sure, he made boatloads of cash this weekend, but will it even out over a losing season?

As far as Coop, I’m conflicted. I like the guy and wanted him to succeed, but there are recurring, nagging signals that he has lost or is losing the clubhouse, or at least doesn’t have the full support of the rotation. Maybe he said something after that 15 – 6 loss to the Phillies that lost trust or something. Our skid certainly started after that. And a lot of his moves don’t make sense, even to a non-sabermetrician like myself. I keep thinking, well, Towles was on a short leash, and Bourn somewhat too. What kind of leash do you give a manager, especially since, as you stated, it’s difficult to assess or quantify his true impact over a season?

75% of the Earth's surface is covered by water. . . the other 25% by Michael Bourn

by Danyah on Jun 16, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I didn't even notice

but we’re not in 5th place, and just 1/2 a game out of last place.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 16, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

We hit fifth after Saturday’s loss I believe. I told someone we were tied for fifth in the division with the Pirates, and they said, “Don’t you mean that you and the Pirates are tied for fourth?” But no, it really seemed like we were tied for fifth with them, and now we’re in sole possession with the Reds about to overtake.

75% of the Earth's surface is covered by water. . . the other 25% by Michael Bourn

by Danyah on Jun 16, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the Doghouse at Work for Years

My manager at my place of business is from New York. Accent and everything. Big Yankees fan. The punk even traveled to Houston for the Friday night game and was leaning on the Astros dugout in full Yankees gear.

I will never hear the end of it from him. Unless we somehow turn this sinking ship around and re-meet the Yankees in October, I will be in the doghouse for years as a result of this weekend’s pathetic showing.

by pel on Jun 16, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Cooper is not even half way through the season....

so I don’t think it is feasible to think about replacing him as manager yet. Common decency probably requires the Astros to give him at least a full season to show what he can do. Having said that, I have serious concerns about Cooper’s decisions and approach as manager. Cooper has an “old school” mindset, which makes me worry that he will try to play baseball like it is 1975. His seeming emotional ups and downs may not be the best thing for a manager. Perhaps he should think back to how Phil Garner handled the roller coaster aspects of a season. The most critical question is the level of respect and leadership he has in the clubhouse; I’m not there so I can’t know for sure how he stands. But some of the comments from players, and his comments about his players, make me wonder if he has a good relationship in the clubhouse.

by clack on Jun 17, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

I keep hearing

on the local radio shows about how how he and Roy-O are in conflict as well as a few of the other players on the team… they haven’t went as far as to say that he’s lost the club house, but they have hinted towards it sort of going in that direction…

Obviously we’re all outsiders so we can only go by what we hear.. so..

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I find myself frequently diagreeing with Coop’s decisions. What was that game a few weeks ago when he didn’t pinch hit for Os in the 7th with 2 outs and men on in a game where we were down by a run or two? But, I also don’t think Coop has anything to do with the pitching staff giving up a league high in HRs. Changing him won’t improve the quality of this staff or the OBP of the top of the order. I am inclined to let him finish out the season, and focus on shoring up our more glaring weaknesses.

by DFWTrojan on Jun 17, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree mostly

but one of the big reasons our lead off OBP is because Bourn was in the lineup at the 1 hole WAY too long… I know Pence isn’t exactly getting on base at a .400 rate or anything either, but Bourn was still in the 1 hole too long.

When it comes down to it.. these are major league players and they are not performing. They should be able to play up to high standards without any coaches on the bench.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Jun 17, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

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