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Houston Astros
@ Philadelphia Phillies

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008, 6:05 PM CDT
Citizens Bank Park

Shawn Chacon vs Adam Eaton

Clear. Winds blowing in from center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 60.

 

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2008 - Shawn Chacon 0-0 2 2 0 0 0 0 12.0 9 5 5 1 8 6 3.75 1.42


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2008 - Adam Eaton 0-0 2 2 0 0 0 0 13.2 11 6 6 1 6 7 3.95 1.24




 

 

 

 

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well..

I’m a little worried about this series. In MLB 08 the Phillies hit like 10 home runs on me in the series and I couldn’t score any runs! I hope it turns out differently.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by TimStros on Apr 15, 2008 5:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eaton topping out at 89 so far...

Tejada works it 2-2, shots one to right center… Berkman scores on the single, Lee to third. Apparently a good play to keep Lee from scoring and to keep Tejada out of scoring position.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blum up...

1-0 Astros, staking Chacon to an early lead.

Blum works 2-0. Blum pops out in foul territory by first.

Radio guys talking about how Victorino is missing in that defensive outfield and about how they might be missing Bourn. BooyaShaka!

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the way...

I like all the charts and stats and line ups at the top…

Rastro would be in heaven.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just wait

until we get all of our sports data completely finished.. :) It’s getting there, but still has some flaws

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Werth, Ruiz, Utley due up...

it’s kinda weird seeing a catcher batting 2nd. Especially one batting .211 and has an OBP off .250. Injuries will do that to you though.

Jenkins had been leading off for a few days there.

Radio guys remind us that today is both Jackie Robinson day, as well as tax day.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:19 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Werth lines one just foul...

Pence was close, but there is a wall there… sounds a lot like Wrigley’s right field but I’m not sure.

Werth works it full then fouls one off… Making Chacon work. Pops up to 3rd. 1 out.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ruiz up...

by the way, if anyone wants PBP duties, I might actually have to do some work here in a second.

Chacon starts him off with a curve… apparently a good one. Then an 88 mph fastball. Chacon at 88 and Eaton at 89? Seems off.

Ruiz grounds out to Chacon quickly.

Utley comes up with 2 outs.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chacon pounds the outside...

gets ahead 1-2. Breaking ball misses for 2-2. Apparently another good one. Utley hits one to right, deep but Pence is there. You don’t want to test the distance of the fences in this park.

End 1, 1-0 Astros.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pence, Ausmus, Chacon due up...

Pence is now in the 7 spot. Hopefully, it’ll help him break out of his funk. Plus, with the always dangerous Ausmus behind him, he should get plenty of pitches to hit.

Riiight.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:26 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Takes a strike...

then flies out to center on the 2nd pitch. Good patience.

Ausmus up. His average is better than Pence’s (2-10 for Ausmus).

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Radio guys talking about Towles's hand...

apparently, he didn’t know he got hit until he heard it and looked down to see laces on his wrist. Says he’s good enough to PR, if not PH (might be a stretch for tonight.)

Ausmus lines out to right. 2 out.

Guys talking about Q, Coop was asking him if he kept in shape during his 10 day vacation. He only had 1 game at RR at C. Maybe he plays later in the week?

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shawn Chacon

You know, I didn’t know Shawn Chacon was black until I read an article the other day that said so. I always thought he was hispanic or latino.

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 6:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eric Bruntlett

Just noticed Bruntlett is playing shortstop for the Phillies today.

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 6:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And he..

Grounds into a double play. :p

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 6:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm back... for now.

Tejada leads off the 4th. Still 1-0.

Chacon at 37 pitches, Eaton at 47.

Tejada works to 3-0 before a 94 mph fastball for strike one. That’s more of the speed I expected for Eaton.

Works it full after a few fouls. Radio guys wondering what kind of scouting report the Phils have for Tejada.

Miggy walks.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blum pops up the first pitch to Utley...

1 out.

Pence up. I bet he swings and misses for strike 1 on some sort of off speed pitch. Does Eaton have a slider?

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nope...

takes for strike 1. I was close. Strike 2 is “high” according to radio guy.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Called strike 3...

Fastball down the pipe. Radio guys talking about how Pence is guessing too much.

The mighty Ausmus is up. He fouls the first one off.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Going back to Pence...

radio guys quote him as saying he looks for breaking stuff and reacts to fastballs. I’m not sure that’s how you draw it up.

Eaton working much slower according to radio guys. P.S. Yesterday was Ausmus’s birthday. The radio guy made a joke that was actually funny: when asked what he got Brad for his birthday, he said he left him alone. Radio guy #2 laughed a lot.

Ausmus flies out to center.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 6:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This offense is going to live and die on these kids

If Bourn, Pence and Towles can’t come through at least some of the time, we won’t win very much.

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 7:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bourn goes 0-2 quickly...

then grounds one up the middle for a single. Radio guys talking about possibly stealing.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:08 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Loretta up...

before a pitch, Eaton throws over to first.

Then he pauses for what the radio guy calls the longest three man staredown. Then another throw over.

Pitch bounced to Bruntlett… GIDP. Inning over.

1-0 still. Quick inning for Eaton.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Howard, Burrell, Jenkins...

Howard goes 1-1, before a big swing and miss. 1-2. Curve gets him swinging.

1 out.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burrell gets one...

but Bourn has room in center.

2 gone, Jenkins misses for strike 1.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Takes for strike 2...

Radio guys comment on how Chacon is working quickly…

High heat gets Jenkins. Chacon has faced the minimum through 5. 55 pitches, 2 hits, 0 walks (I said zero walks), and 3 Ks. Not bad at all.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need

another Carlos Lee home run. Haven’t had one in awhile.

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 7:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lee puts one off Werths glove...

that’s twice. 1st and 3rd, no outs. Miggy up. Lee was stealing. Miggy flies out to shallow left. No runs.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blum up...

didn’t swing on the first pitch this time. Needs to get one deep to score Berkman.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh...

Did you see that Lance managed to not break his bubble-gum bubble while going 1st to 3rd? LOL.

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 7:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blum and Pence up

We may as well call this inning over.

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 7:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or

we’ll just call it an RBI single for Blum

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weeeeee!

I think I put Blum on my fantasy team the other day.

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Berkman

now tied with Jimmy Winn for 7th all time in Astros hits.. or so JD says

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eaton throws to 1st`

And Lee covers his hard protective helmet, with his soft, breakable hands

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Goes 0-2 before...

taking one, lining one hard… then rips it down the first base line.

2-0, Lee to third.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pence up...

let’s “react” to one of those fastballs, eh? Fly deep center… great catch from Werth. Lee scores.

3-0.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I mean...

did Pence just miss it? Or did he get it and it just died at the wall?

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looked like a pretty good hit.

Open gameday and you can see the replay.

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 7:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He got it..

Unfortunately he only hit it 400 feet and the wall was is 409

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is..

Valverde’s three runs.

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Feliz lines one off Blums glove...

he can’t get it in time to throw him out. Hit, runner on first.

Bruntlett goes 0-2 quickly.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bruntlett bloops one over 2nd...

1st and 2nd, no outs. Pitcher spot due up.

Eaton bats? 95 pitches… I’d guess a PH. Yep, Dobbs.

Eaton is done. 6 IP, 3 ER, 7 hits, 2 walks, 3 Ks

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wright/Geary in the pen

A K and a DP would do wonders right here.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tejada makes a play...

end of the threat. Chacon at 75 pitches through 6.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He better stay in

If he doesn’t… Cooper should be fired

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alfonso Soriano Hurt

I doubt you remember, but I mentioned in the Cubs series about Alfonso Soriano and his stupid hop he makes when catching fly balls… Well.. sucker!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3348691

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No...

damnit… he’s on one of my fantasy teams…

I’ll take it though. Bad for the Cubs is good enough for me.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hehe

Same here…

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noticed

they took away live stats for the yahoo fantasy league. Now I can’t tell how many points my guys are building up.

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 7:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's the only thing I don't like...

about Yahoo! fantasy. They make you pay for live scoring. Plus, they gave us 2 weeks free just as a tease.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

I noticed it today as well… was trying to see what Chacon had.

They give free live stats in fantasy hockey..

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chacon due up...

I hadn’t used gameday in a while. It’s a lot better than I remember.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chacon K's...

then Bourn chops one to first. Howard beats him there… Radio guys make a joke about how it would have been bug hitting truck. They’re just so funny.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You get that from the radio.. or gameday?

If that was from Gameday.. then it’s getting quicker.. only about 45 – 60 secs behind

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was looking at Gameday...

and it showed the first 2 pitches to Lee as on the invisible guy’s belt. And Lee is not the generic shape of said invisible batter…

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

the 1st one he checked his swing and it hit him above the knuckles, the 2nd was inside pretty good, but didn’t hit him

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 7:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Utley grounds out.

Chacon gets ahead of Howard… then walks him.

Burrell is up. Then is down on strikes.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 outs...

Jenkins up. 91 pitches already. Gameday says 94. Who knows? 90-something.

Jenkins gets one deep. Winds now blowing out again, at keast according to radio guys. Bourn gets it. Inning over.

3-0 still. Chacon should be done. He started to struggle in that inning. He has a 2.37 ERA for the season right now. I’ll take that.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Feliz flies out...

Bruntlett out.

Rollins PH for Durbin. Bruntlett steals on the 2nd pitch.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

big out..

Rollins FC ..2 down

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Werth up...

flies out to Pence in right.

Chacon goes 8 and is due up 2nd in the 9th. I say he’s done. 109 pitches. 8 IP, 0 ERs, 4 hits, 2 BBs, 5 Ks, a season ERA of 2.25. Not too shabby from the team’s 4th starter, eh?

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bruntlett!

How can you steal from your former brothers!?

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chacon

gets out of the inning. 8-strong.

Valverde working the save? Or complete game?

by jonthefon on Apr 15, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

109 pitches...

with 2, 3, 4 due up. I’d say he’s done.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ausmus ground to 3rd...

Erstad in for Chacon. Also grounds to 3rd.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bourn up...

and apparently Miggy gets the Lucchese boots. Radio guys getting some laughs.

Bourn walks. Go. Steal. Now.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bourne On

Good AB

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't wait to see Lidge sometime in this series

obviously when the Phils are down.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd rather see him come on for a save...

and have Berkman crush one off some sort of building outside the stadium, silencing the crowd.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it'd be healthy...

for all involved. Except maybe Lidge.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I laid on my couch

for like 2 hours after that HR. I just don’t need that kind of reminder.

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 8:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And the truth is...

that I still really loot for Lidge. I’d prefer he just get no work at all this series, or that he pitch an uneventful inning in a blowout by the Astros.

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 8:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did I really write Bourn with the E?

Lo works the BB

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Icchh!

Wanted at least one more across the plate if it’s Valverde…

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 8:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah

3 makes it a save opportunity. :) Which means more points for my fantasy team. :)

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 8:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard Brownie mention

something about the Astros having 5 picks in the first 3 rounds in this year’s draft, including the 10th pick. I was just wondering if any of you guys knew the number of the other picks.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, I hadn't heard that...

That’s good hearing. Good things happen when you don’t do everything possible to sacrifice draft picks.

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 8:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's only good

if we actually sign any of them

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by TimStros on Apr 15, 2008 8:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it’s nice that when Berkman gets out, a good portion of them are hard hit balls that are just in the wrong place. That last out was a shot! Berkman is a beast this year, I hope he keeps it up!

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by TimStros on Apr 15, 2008 8:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

He got robbed there.

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 8:32 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

stupid Valverde!

he’s useless!

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by TimStros on Apr 15, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh...

I wonder if anyone in the bullpen smiled at Lidge there.

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 8:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

@##&%$$^%^%^

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice...

shutout gone. Snelling hit for Ruiz. Homer.

3-1.

Next pitch nails Utley in the back.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant tying...

Valverde gets him 0-2 quickly. Ks him on 3 straight.

Same guy on the mound?

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burrell up...

still the tying run at the plate.

Another strike. What the eff?

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow...

2 run homer to Burrell. Chacon gets wiped off the board.

1 out.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

Valverde, you card!

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There goes

Valverde’s mini-scoreless streak.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Apr 15, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who's...

going to let me recycle ”’Jose Valverde’ is Spanish for ‘Brad Lidge’”?

by jonthefon on Apr 15, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dang

Astros controlled this game and now it’s tied.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Apr 15, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

Valverde is still stuck on 99 saves.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so are the astros just cursed?

Mabe we just aren’t allowed to have a closer. We should just go by committee. Or score a hell of a lot more runs

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by TimStros on Apr 15, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If there are any good thing to take out of this

it shows how good Chacon really did pitch.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

small consolation...

I’m already really tired of Valverde robbing our closers.

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 8:40 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's funny

how a whole team can come together to win a game and one single person can come ruin it.

by entropic soul on Apr 15, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seriously

o well. im still being an optimist.

valverde needs to get outta this inning and we need to win the game off lidge.

its the only way to reverse the curse

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 8:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

..don't have to bring in Open-Valve every damn time@!

..he’s really having a rough start to the year.

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh my freakin...

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eep.

Why do I smell walk-off homer?

by jonthefon on Apr 15, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF?!

Geez, I didn’t comment during the game as I was just hoping that the 3-0 score would hold up but sure enough we are already having closer problems. Chacon deserves a win for how he pitched tonight and it is just taken from him. Maybe we are cursed as far as closers are concerned.

Anyway – Go Stros!

SeoulStro

Biggio and Bagwell for the HOF!

by SeoulStro on Apr 15, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Strike him out already

this is driving me crazy

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Apr 15, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh no

Jenkins struck out and he still reaches first on a passed ball. I’ve got a bad feeling about this

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Apr 15, 2008 8:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PAINFULL!!!!!

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

umm

what kinda call was that.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now a SO and...

the guy still gets on…this is not going to end well.

F&*K!

Go Stros!

Biggio and Bagwell for the HOF!

by SeoulStro on Apr 15, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

devastated

Devastated
Devastated

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Apr 15, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Valverde---FRIGHTENING.

bad.

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dont even know

what to say.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just when I thought the team was turning the corner

we have an ending like this…Yes, devasting. Now we have out ACE (who’s not pitching anywhere like an ACE) going tomorrow after a defeat like this! UGH!

Anyway – Go Stros!

SeoulStro

Biggio and Bagwell for the HOF!

by SeoulStro on Apr 15, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stupid

stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid

I’m talking about you Cooper. I KNEW we were gonna lose the game when Valverde came in, so it wasn’t even that painful, just kinda funny when I watched it unfold

If Wandy hadn’t had the Cardinals game stolen from him, I wouldn’t blame Cooper, but he did, so I do.

Stupid.

I'll end up liking Tejada. . . . just give me some time

by rastronomicals on Apr 15, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fucking Stupid

I'll end up liking Tejada. . . . just give me some time

by rastronomicals on Apr 15, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

14 games in

and I’m already not liking Cooper. He seems like he’s got no guts. I think Garner leaves Chacon in.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just don't know...

How I’m going to take another season where I never feel safe with a 3-run lead. UGH.

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 8:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

you know Dierker would have.

JD says 90% of managers would have made the move. Maybe so but that means 90% of ‘em are stupid cowards.

It is a simple thing to bring out your starter and have the closer ready.

I'll end up liking Tejada. . . . just give me some time

by rastronomicals on Apr 15, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not upset about Chacon being pulled...

it’s just that if Valverde is struggling so much…why not break conventional wisdom and use a different reliever to close the deal?...

Brocail could have used an inning too.

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess...

we can’t know if Chacon indicated to Cooper that he was done?

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perhaps

but we do know that after 7-1/3, when Cooper came out to talk to him, Chacon was emphatic that he was good.

And as I was watching the meeting on the mound I was thinking to myself his body language was saying “for the rest of the game.” not just the eighth

Even as I knew that Coop would go to Valverde anyway, and even as I knew that Valverde would blow the save, regardless of this “faith” that Cooper and his brethren feel they need to show their closers.

I'll end up liking Tejada. . . . just give me some time

by rastronomicals on Apr 15, 2008 10:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Valverde is sucking...

like Lidge, who will be replacement closer while he refinds his stuff?

Villareal? Brocail? Geary?

by jonthefon on Apr 15, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of the last 2...

Villareal has been doing almost as bad.

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 8:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The thing Chacon did to win me over tonight was...

when Coop came out in the 8th before J-Roll and Chacon said with a smile, “I’m good, I got him.” I was a big fan of that.

and to answer someone’s question up there, I think the best replacement closer would be someone in the minors. Maybe Nieve.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 8:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm...

Well, it’s worth a try. Need to get Valverde to be pitching in reasonably safe outings in either middle or setup, find his poise again.

by jonthefon on Apr 15, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

None of the above

..already obvious..they pay Valverde big money to do what the does..

he’s going to have to get lit a couple more times before anything happens…
will take a **-storm in the papers to get to that point…

After that…whoever is pitching best may get some appearances for awhile..

Until Houston is 10 games below .500 expect nothing.

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about...

rotting in the cellar? Will that do something?

by jonthefon on Apr 15, 2008 9:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They're already

1 1/2 games behind Cincy, although it’ll be 1 after tonight, I should think.

I’m waiting on Kaz to see if we can get things together. Though he’s not too much.

by jonthefon on Apr 15, 2008 9:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

might could...

In about a week or so…

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just reading the Phils board for...

some reaction (Yeah, I like to torture myself) and they were saying that the winning run scored looked like he was out. Obviously I’m not watching the game on TV and just going by you guys and GameCast so what’s the verdict (not that it really matters) but was the play that close at home? Curious, that’s all…

Go Stros!

Biggio and Bagwell for the HOF!

by SeoulStro on Apr 15, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see...

thanks for the replies. Let’s hope Oswalt gets his act together tomorrow…this team needs a lift after tonights 9th inning debacle.

Go Astros!

Biggio and Bagwell for the HOF!

by SeoulStro on Apr 15, 2008 9:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I found it hard to tell...

And there were no replays. It was pretty close.

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 9:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watching live I thought there was no question he was out

and even after watching the replay several times, I still think Ausmus got him. Let’s just put it this way. If that were an Astros player sliding into home, he would definitely be called out.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 9:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree, as I watched it...

I was sure he was out, and JD was calling him out, and I thought “good,” then I looked down on the field and the umpire had the safe sign. Didn’t see a replay though. I wouldn’t be surprised if the umpire wanted to get out of the stadium without the Philly fans dumping tar and feathers on him.

by clack on Apr 15, 2008 9:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

throw was well ahead of the runner

but slightly off-line. watching it initially, because the throw was so far ahead of the runner, i thought he was clearly out, but i replayed it in slow-mo with my DVR and it was closer than i thought. Ausmus had to swipe for the tag, but i still think it was in time.

it’s immaterial though. we had a start go 8 scoreless and inexcusably blew it in the 9th. i tried to give Valverde the benefit of the doubt in his previous shaky outings, mostly becuase he hadn’t lost a game for us, but this one was rediculous. he gave up a home run and hit a guy before throwing his first strike. man, this one hurts.

by littlevisigoth on Apr 15, 2008 9:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watching JD and Brownie

and I thought Jenkins was gonna be out as Miggy made the throw and Jenkins came down the line.

But when I watched the replay I thought he was safe. Way I saw it he didn’t beat the ball but he did beat the sweep tag.

But then again I’d become convinced that Valverde was going to lose the game, so that idea may have influenced the way I viewed the play at the plate.

I'll end up liking Tejada. . . . just give me some time

by rastronomicals on Apr 15, 2008 10:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

..well no matter what..

Valverde had a bad appearance….from the get-go…

Could tell he was going to blow it from the first AB.

Sorry for being negative..

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To top things off...

My wife came in and tried to ask me a question just as I was throwing off my headphones in disgust after the second HR (I watch on mlb.tv with headphones on). She thought I was just reacting to her coming in the room. That took a little explaining. Thanks, Jose.

by BTastros on Apr 15, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bright note...

Early starting pitching has been excellent….Oswalt will come around…(fingers crossed)

They scored enough runs to win tonight..

Just Valverde right now…a little Villareal…

Club could easily have 8 wins…..

..agonizing since 1983...

by rockwalltx on Apr 15, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very, very tough loss to swallow

at the same time it’s still only a couple of weeks into the LONG grueling baseball season. I’ve seen much worse starts from the Astros and seen them bounce back. The 38-10 record(something like that) to end the season in ‘04 with Beltran, the 15-30 start in ‘05 to make the World Series and let’s not forget the one that fell short in ‘06 when they made up like 9 games from the Cardinals in the last 2-3 weeks of the season to end up just falling short to the eventual champs.

So, there is still hope.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK

But in retrospect, the Opening Day loss last year where Lidge gave up the homer to Nady set the tone for the entire year, and in a sense the Astros never overcame it.

Not to be negative or anything like that. . . . . just saying that sometimes things change, and sometimes they don’t.

I'll end up liking Tejada. . . . just give me some time

by rastronomicals on Apr 15, 2008 10:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see where your coming from, but

there are 148 games left and I don’t believe this team is as bad as their record.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 10:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What I hated about the game...

is that I was really feeling good about the Astros headed into the 9th. I loved what Chacon was doing. The guy was showing that he can pitch….he is probably doing more pitching, as opposed to throwing, now than he ever did when he was younger and ran it up there at 95. I loved the Astros’ defense. It seemed like things were starting to fall into place. We finally had “pitching and defense” like Wade and Tal Smith talked about when they took over. And we had just enough of the offense clicking to get a win.

Then to have all those good feelings go down the drain. Man, that is disappointing. And I really don’t want to go through another year of Lidge-like problems. But what can you do?

by clack on Apr 15, 2008 9:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Totally agree clack

This game seemed like the one to get us on track as a team.

Then Valverde blew it and were right back where we started.

Bourn to Run!

by jsams on Apr 15, 2008 10:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

n/t

.

I loved what Chacon was doing.

I had no idea he had command of a curveball like that. I’ve said some bad things about Chacon in the past, and might be giving him too much credit now. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, as Stros Bro likes to say.

But, man, Chacon is gonna get the benefit of the doubt from me for a good bit, here on out . . . .

I'll end up liking Tejada. . . . just give me some time

by rastronomicals on Apr 15, 2008 10:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

He’s pitched well all season so far(given the season is young)... I wasn’t a believer in him after spring training(still not sure about it), but you have to give him credit for what he’s done so far. He doesn’t deserve an 0-0 record… He now has the lowest starters ERA on the team at 2.25, tied with Backe and just ahead of Wandy’s 2.33.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 15, 2008 10:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone here would have thought...

2 weeks into the season that the two worst pitchers on the team would be Roy and Valverde?

You could have gotten a ton of money off me for thta one…

by TexSkins on Apr 15, 2008 10:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hard to watch in person

I was at the game tonight representing in my Astros jersey and all, but that finish was hard to watch… Chacon pitched a brilliant game, and the middle of the order looked pretty good. It’s a shame that Valverde has blown two great starting pitching efforts now.

by AstrosNation on Apr 15, 2008 11:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

... out ...

And from where I was sitting, which was section 323, right behind home plate third base side, Geoff Jenkins looked out. Although I’ll be honest, I didn’t think there was going to even be a play at the plate initially.

by AstrosNation on Apr 15, 2008 11:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jonk from The Good Phight here. Tough loss for you guys. I wouldn’t be so thrilled about Chacon though, he was on tonight, but he is likely to implode.

This doesn’t make up for that Biggio shot, but it certainly takes some of the sting away.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Apr 16, 2008 1:49 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why not be thrilled?

We’ve gotten much more than we expected from him… but I don’t think anyone expects him to continue this all year.

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Apr 16, 2008 5:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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