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McLemore, Moehler, Starting Pitching

Mark McLemore was moved out of the starting rotation competition and will compete for a bullpen slot. Meanwhile Brian Moehler was moved out of the bullpen and will compete for the starting rotation.
http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080313&content_id=2424111&vkey=spt2008n ews&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

A noteworthy point--of which I wasn't aware--in this article is that McLemore is out of options.  If you assume that Wright will make the bullpen as a lefty specialist (based on both his spring performance and his Rule 5 status), then McLemore may have a tough time making the team.  In that case, the Astros could lose him on waivers.  Cooper says, options  or no options, McLemore has to learn to throw strikes in order to make the team.

I understand why Moehler has been shifted to the rotation competition, but frankly the idea of Moehler in the rotation is scary.  With Woody Williams' recent meltdowns, and the paucity of good performances by starting pitchers, this indicates to me that Cooper is feeling desperate.

Wade admitted that Boras called him about Lohse but he said that Lohse's $4 million or so cost is too pricey for the Astros right now.  Now that Lohse's pricetag has been marked down, it seems to me that signing him is a no-brainer...but it's not my money.  Reportedly, the Cardinals reached agreement on a 1 year $4.25 million contract for Lohse this afternoon.  As it stands, the pool of available FA starters shrinks significantly with that signing.  Most of the remaining possibilities (e.g., Jeff Weaver, Freddy Garcia, Rodrigo Lopez) have major injury or performance question marks.

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Why do I have a feeling...
that as soon as Paulino is healthy, he's in the rotation?  

And that Nieve will be given a good, hard look?

McLemore looked pretty good in the bullpen last year.  I guess I never really considered him for the rotation, so the news isn't that big of a surprise.  His being out of options, and Wright as a Rule 5 guy, means that if one (or both) doesn't make the team out of ST, they're gone.

I wasn't big on Moehler last year... but I like how he can pitch mop-up duty and long relief out of the bullpen.  Last year, I assumed he would get any emergency start (at least whenever Sampson wasn't in the pen) the team needed.

by TexSkins on Mar 13, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree...
that signing Lohse for around $4 million is just a no-brainer.  We are in serious trouble with the starting pitching, and we're paying Woody $6 million even if he doesn't earn a starting spot.  Just nuts: thanks again, T-Purp.

by BTastros on Mar 14, 2008 12:19 AM CDT reply actions  

think the fact
that Satan is his agent had anything to do with it?  now that Taveras is gone, do we have any Boras clients?

by littlevisigoth on Mar 14, 2008 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boras clients
I checked out all the agents for the 40-man roster and for the non-roster invitees, and here are the Boras clients:

Current:
David Newhan

Previously:
Carlos Lee (switched to Boras briefly in 2006)
Runelvys Hernandez (briefly before firing Boras)

by exit53 on Mar 17, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paulino expects to be out...
3-4 months, according to his quotes at MLB.com. Paulino thinks that is a more realistic view, based on what he was told by the doctor. Ed Wade said it will be at least 2 months before Paulino can even start a rehab assignment.  Wade said he is glad Paulino is taking a conservative view of the injury.  Paulino thinks that the medical staff will prescribe two months of complete rest; so if you add the extra month to Wade's statement, you can see how Paulino comes up with 3 months.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080313&content_id=2425159&vkey=spt2008news&fex t=.jsp&c_id=hou&partnered=rss_hou

by clack on Mar 14, 2008 7:05 AM CDT reply actions  

i stopped short
of posting the question, "is Moehler possibly a candidate for the rotation?" after the last outing, cause i thought i'd get laughed at.  can't say i'm thrilled about the idea, but i've said before that i truly hope that they give the jobs to the guys they think are most qualified out of Spring Training, and not just hand people jobs because of what they're getting paid (Chacon, Williams).

by littlevisigoth on Mar 14, 2008 8:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Spring training stats...
for pitchers should be taken with a grain of salt.  I thought Zachary Levine's column in the Chronicle made an interesting point about the link, or lack thereof, between spring training ERA and regular season ERA.
http://blogs.chron.com/unofficialscorer/2008/03/what_to_make_of_woody_williams.html

For pitchers with spring ERAs of 9 or more last year, half pitched better than league average during the regular season.  A 50/50 chance that a high spring ERA leads to a good or bad regular season means...well, it means practically nothing.  Flipping a coin is as good as relying on a high spring ERA to predict a season.

So if we have, say, 6 candidates for the 4 and 5 rotation slots and all of them have bad spring ERAs, it also might be that 50% of the six (3) will be capabble of having good regular seasons, which should allow you fill the 4,5, and backup rotation slots well...if the coaching staff makes the right choices.  I don't mean that the 50% probability can be used in a rigorous sense, but I think it makes a point.

by clack on Mar 14, 2008 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Richard Justice's blog...
has an interesting passage:

 "The Astros have come to the conclusion that this pitching staff is going to punch a ticket to last place. That's why they're hurriedly working the phones to see if anyone on the roster could get them a major league starter.

I'm guessing that anyone other than Carlos Lee, Lance Berkman and Roy Oswalt would be available. At the moment, the rotation appears to be Oswalt, Brandon Backe, Wandy Rodriguez, Chris Sampson and Shawn Chacon."

Of course, this wasn't totally unforeseeable.  And it makes the decision on Lohse even more perplexing (unless it is simply the Boras issue with him).  It is hard to imagine what the Astros have left to trade which can bring back a quality starting pitcher...not when most of the teams are also seeking the same thing.  The other possibility is looking for a gamble in the form of a starting pitcher who is out of options and won't make his team's rotation.  It would be a gamble, because his team would try to keep him if he is a highly reliable starter. Of course, if you acquire that kind of player you have to put him on your roster, which means that someone else has to be let go or sent down to AAA.

by clack on Mar 18, 2008 8:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Matsui?
Why not trade Matsui for a starter? Have Loretta be the everyday 2nd baseman.

by exit53 on Mar 19, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one else is that dumb
To pay Masui 16 mil over three years.  And anything we could get for Matsui would  be a Woody clone anyway with hopes of just not sucking.  
It's the next generation of Astros. Let's see if they can play like the men they are replacing.

by TBurford on Mar 19, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

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