Houston Astros VS Detroit Tigers : Spring Training Game 15

by Stros Bro on Mar 12, 2008 12:33 PM CDT in News

Woody Williams VS Kenny Rogers, or Old Guy VS Old Guy.

Houston
Bourn, CF
Loretta, 2B
Tejada, SS
Berkman, 1B
Lee, LF
Erstad, RF
Wigginton, 3B
Cruz, DH
Ausmus, C

Paulino has a pinched nerve in his arm, looks like he'll be out for about a month. Link

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4-1 Tigers

in the 2d inning. Williams has given up some hard hit balls and a lot of flyballs on a windy day. Berkman with a HR.

by clack on Mar 12, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions

8-1 Tigers in the 3d.

3 run HR by Renteria. Second HR of the day by Pudge. Woody is getting neck exercise.

by clack on Mar 12, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions

10 hits, 4 HR, 8 ER, 0 K in 3 IP. two of Woody's three ST appearances have been atrocious. he certainly won't NOT make the club (like the use of the double negative?), but how bad does he have to pitch before he loses his spot in the rotation? i'm not even saying he's there yet. it's still only three appearances and 7.2 innings, but he'd better show something at some point.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions

Probably going to take a lot

since nobody else is really oing that well either(other than Roy)

Go 'Stros!

by Stros Bro on Mar 12, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions

bottom 4th

Moehler has some bad luck. Lee lost a fly ball that should have been the third out, but bounced for a double. then a grounder hits a bad bounce and hops over Tejada to score a run. neither scored an error, but the run is hardly Moehler's fault.

9-1 Tigers.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 1:22 PM CDT reply actions

Williams

When are they gonna realize that he does'nt have anything left? Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine can get away with throwing 86 MPH because the can hit their spots nearly every time and have good movement. Woody throws BP fastballs and is missing with his offspeed stuff, he is'nt getting it done. I'd rather watch figure skating than watch him pitch, and I hate figure skating(except when Katarina Witt was doing it, because she was Smokin' Hot).

by schnozz on Mar 12, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions

bottom 5th

Rogers cruising through his half of the inning. he gave up the dinger to Berkman, but otherwise scattered only two hits and no walks, with two Ks, over five innings.

Moehler still pitching.

Rodriguez flies out, just short of his third home run of the game.

Jones grounds out.

Granderson flies out to Erstad in right.

Pretty good outing for Moehler. I'm sure Coop will forgive the run in the 4th.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions

top 6th

Virgil Vasquez in to pitch. Don't know if he's a major leaguer or not.

Bourn leads off with a line single to right.

He's erased on a GIDP from Loretta.

Tejada drives a double deep off the wall in right.

Berkman draws a walk.

Lee tattoos one, but right at the third baseman.

Should have done some damage that inning.

Still 9-1 Tigers.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions

Erstad homers, 9-2

by clack on Mar 12, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions

bottom 6th

Moehler out for another one. Polanco led off with the first legit hit off Brian today.

He's got no problem with the next three, getting Ordonez on strikes.

I think Moehler's been making a solid bid to get a spot on the roster.

Still 9-1 Tigers.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions

top 7th

Erstad leads off with a homer.

9-2 now.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions

Wiggy

hit on the hand, takes 1st.

Cruz with a long fly double over Granderson's head, maybe a bit wind-aided. Wiggy scores from 1st.

9-3 now.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Ausmus, Bourn, and Loretta

are retired in succession and Cruz is stranded at 2nd.

Nice that we picked up a run, but with a man on 2nd and no outs, you'd like to think somebody can drive him in somehow.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions

sorry

2 runs

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions

another correction

it was Abercrombie, not Bourn, helping to strand Cruz at 2nd.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions

As much crap as Wade...

has taken over the Erstad signing from the national media, it is great to see Erstad have a fine spring training.

by clack on Mar 12, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions

i didn't realize

he was taking that much crap.

i thought it was a decent enough signing. he hasn't had a good season in a while, but all we're asking him to do is be a pinch hit lefty and not embarass himself in the field. i'm guessing he's going to fill that role at least as good as Palmeiro has in the last two years. hopefully his solid spring portends good things.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions

bottom 7th

Brocail in, gives up 4 singles (1 run) to start the inning, but gets a popup, a K, and a flyball out to end it.

10-3 Tigers.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 2:14 PM CDT reply actions

top 8th

Astros pick up another run. Diaz scored either on Newhan's opposite field single, or Wiggy's ground rule double. Can't remember.

Wiggy having a nice day today. Some small positives coming out of today's beating.

10-4 Tigers.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions

bottom 8th

Paronto in the game. infield single and a double to the wall score another run.

11-4 Tigers.

Paronto may be on the outside looking in at this point.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions

Top 9th

Perez, Abercrombie, and Castillo go harmlessly 1-2-3 the beat down is over.

Tigers win 11-4.

Moehler with a pretty good outing, but Woody was rocked and Brocail and Paronto both had fairly forgettable outings.

Wiggy was 2-3 with a double. Cruz was 2-4 with two doubles. Bourn was 1-3. Erstad and Berkman homered. Tejada doubled. Most of the hitters we care about had a pretty good day.

Another day for the "score doesn't matter" speech, which I'm sure we're all getting tired of. Not quite half way through Spring Training, so lots of time for guys to swing either way, hopefully mostly towards the positive results.

by littlevisigoth on Mar 12, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions

Woody's comments on the official site

are a joke.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080312&content_id=2422128&vkey=spt2008n ews&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

He gave up 7 XBHs in 3 innings and thought he made some good pitches? Tip your hat to other team? Maybe he should realize that he should be throwing those "good pitches" in a beer league.

He doesn't have anything that will get out MLB hitters anymore and I hope the Astros keep his leash so short they won't be doomed right out of the gates. I keep hearing "what else do they have"? Well they keep stats like performance over or under replacement value and Woody is on the wrong side. That means just about any decent AAA kid or a journeyman could do better.

180IP of 5.28ERA is really damn easy to come by. And Woody will be lucky to put that up again.

I still like Jason Hirsh

by Shamus on Mar 12, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions

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