Astros willing to trade Tejada?
by Stephen Higdon on Dec 8, 2008 9:22 PM CST
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MLB.com's Anthony Castrovince is quashing the Tejada to the Twins rumors on Shaprio head shake:
I disagree with Castrovince on the salary eating, but the head shake seems rather confirmative....
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I'm exhausted and cranking out final papers like it's my job, but here are the relevant quotes:
From Ken Rosenthal:
The full story says we're really not willing to move Valverde and that we'll have to eat around of half Tejada's salary. I'm not sure I'm a fan unless we get legitmate prospects in return for eating the salary.
Justice chimes in with:
Perhaps we'll get another Tejada trade this winter.
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blech
i don’t see any way that wiggy ends up near $10mil. That’s asinine. If he does, i’d non-tender that mug in a second. he should make no more than $6mil after arbitration.
Also if we’re moving Tejada(i’m not against it) i want no part of manzella or lu(LAD) as our starting shortstop. may as well bring Adam Everett back.
agree about the $10 million...
Justice may have pulled that number out of his rear…or was given bad information. Wigginton is still in his arbitration years, and his salary will be judged against similarly situated arbitration eligible players. Very, very few arb eligible players have gotten $10 million. Ryan Howard and Soriano come to mind….but Wiggy isn’t near their level, since they were coming off of seasons in which they led their leagues in HRs and were near the top in RBIs. (Remember that Wiggy’s injuries diminish his counting stats, and that is more important in arbitration than an obsure stat like OPS.) If I was guessing, Wigginton might get $7 or $8 million.
Everett is being courted by five teams, and it appears he will become the Tigers’ starting SS. In another thread, I suggested Punto as an Everett type defensive player. Izturis is another one.
Chin Lung Hu
I wouldn’t mind getting this guy in a trade for Tejada. Tejada is in a monster decline, and Hu had a very good 2007. I’ve heard that his struggles this year were due to eye problems. That could easily be propaganda out of LA to boost his trade value, but if it isn’t he could be a decent, cheap SS. If he could ground into fewer than 32 double plays that would be a big help as well. Basically, if you changed Tejada’s name to anything else, nobody would want anything to do with him. We still have a narrow window to capitalize on his name value and get somebody else to eat part of his salary. If we can get a servicable player back, thats even better. We need to do it before Furcal wises up and lowers his asking price however.
by seanbergmanrules on Dec 8, 2008 12:17 PM CST reply actions
not sure about Hu.
I read that the Pirates didn’t want him in a Jack Wilson trade because they do not think he has a ML bat. That makes me wonder about him. On the other hand, his bat looks a heck of a lot better than Manzella’s in the minors.
Twins or A's
I don’t think I would go for a package with Hu being the centerpiece. I think both The Twins and A’s match up nicely. Similar to The Wigginton post, I like Tolleson (even though me may end up a 2B). They also have a pretty decent 3B in AA in Daniel Valencia. Luke Hughes looks good, but I would expect a big time regression. But our best bet would be to get some pitching. Maybe a package of Tolleson and Delaney for Tejada and pick up lots of his contract? (Neither are in their top 10 prospects)
Also, considering The A’s bailed on Furcal, it looks like they could be a great match for Miggy. They have an abundance of young SP’s. Maybe a deal sending Tejada and C. Johnson for Dallas Braden, J. SImmons, and C. Pennington while picking up a large chunk of salary?
One of the A's Nation guys
Was over here a month ago trying to determine how we matched up for a Tejada deal.
The list there about covers all the pieces we could acquire from the A’s, but it sounds like the A’s would rather eat his contract and skimp on the prospects. I hope we wouldn’t capitulate to such a deal.
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by Stephen Higdon on Dec 8, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
A's have a ton of depth
but i doubt they give up all 3 for tejada…especially both former 1st rd picks from 05/07 in pennington/simmons
braden is doable
would you want another SS gregorio petit…great defensively 24 yrs old
maybe texas native craig italiano?
sp travis banwart from 07 draft?
reliever sam demel went to TCU from 07 draft
OF matt sulentic, another guy from texas?
toolsy, but still raw hitters like richie robnett, javier herrera, or jermaine mitchell?
this article implies it wouldnt take a huge haul…maybe an mlb ready sp _ the salary relief
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-tejadaindians120808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Minnesota enters 2009 without an everyday shortstop. The Twins have discussed trading outfielder Delmon Young, and Philadelphia recently showed interest, with shortstop prospect Jason Donald the likely match. Were the Twins to more doggedly pursue Tejada, the source said, Houston would prefer one of its young starting pitchers, likely a minor leaguer.
by Asfan4ever723 on Dec 8, 2008 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
list
1. Trevor Cahill, RHP
2. Brett Anderson, LHP
3. Chris Carter, 3B/1B
4. Aaron Cunningham, CF
5. Gio Gonzalez, LHP
6. Adrian Cardenas, SS/2B
7. Sean Doolittle, 1B/RF
8. James Simmons, RHP
9. Vin Mazzaro, RHP
10. Josh Donaldson, C
11. Michel Inoa, RHP
12. Jemile Weeks, 2B
13. Henry Rodriguez, RHP
14. Rashun Dixon, CF
15. Fautino De Los Santos, RHP
16. Arnold Leon, RHP
17. Josh Outman, LHP
18. Corey Brown, CF
19. Brett Hunter, RHP
20. Sam Demel, RHP
21. Andrew Carignan, RHP
22. Tyson Ross, RHP
by Asfan4ever723 on Dec 8, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
My preference
Would be a pitcher, we just have nothing there in the minor leagues.
The Twins link is interesting, thanks for it.
I think if a deal with the A’s happens (or any deal for that matter) we’ll target on good prospect instead of a few decent guys, or at least I hope so.
The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Dec 8, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Mlbtraderumors is reporting that there was at least a phone call between the Twins and the Astros regarding Tejada.
please
any trade involving tejada i wouldnt mind…as long as we either get prospets or a least someone decent
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 8, 2008 4:21 PM CST reply actions
I might believe the "update" in saying that it is unlikely the Astros eat much salary.
I recall reading (at some point) that McLane hates to trade a player and eat a lot of the salary. He hates to pay a player to play for another team. Most of the cases I recall in which the Astros ate any salary in a trade, it was a relatively minor amount.
Asfan4ever723
Keep in mind I offered Chris Johnson along with Tejada. A 3B who keeps getting better and may be Wiggy’s replacement if we end up trading him. I chose him because you guys aren’t that strong at 3B as well (Chavez, lol). Also, I picked Pennington for 3 reasons. One, I figured he was easier to get because everything that I read had Petit being favored by A’s front office. Second, Pennington is from Texas, as for us Astros that means something. Third, he is a better defensive SS that Petit and Mr. Ed Wade is all about defense up the middle. It just seems like a good fit.
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