What does the Astros offense look like now?
2009 Projection 703 runs
2008 Actual 712 runs
- Bourn and Pence are expected to have a better season next year.
- Both projection systems like Towles, and think he will be decent.
- The projected sub-.700 OPS at third base is very bad.
- CHONE likes Sutton well enough to project a 700-ish OPS.
- CHONE isn't as bullish on Chris Johnson, Maysonet, or Manzella.
- Both projections see a slight rebound by Tejada.
- CHONE projects better stats for Bogusevic than Bourn.
- Excel File
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Nice job
I agree with your assumptions. It all goes by the wayside with the first major injury. But is interesting. 21 runs lost with Wigginton gone will hurt some – and you did not say if Mark Loretta’s loss will hurt.
I wonder if and how much the loss of Brad Ausmus beind the plate will affect Astros pitching (I know- you didn’t analyze that) or Cecil Cooper having a year’s experience as manager.
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by Joe in Birmingham on
Dec 21, 2008 5:53 PM CST
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Yes, agree about Loretta.
When I looked at the utility infielder situation during this exercise, the loss of Loretta jumped out at me. The Astros desperately need OBP, and most of the options for utllity infielder probably will post a sub-.300 OBP. If you assume, as I did, that Matsui’s back up will get maybe 40% of the playing time at 2d base, a low OBP will really hurt. Loretta didn’t have much power, but always puts up a good OBP. In retrospect, I wonder if Ed Wade would have let Loretta go if he knew that he was going to non-tender Wigginton? If Loretta were still around, he would provide a reliable platoon at 3d with Blum, plus back up Tejada and Matsui.
by clack on
Dec 21, 2008 6:29 PM CST
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Thanks for this Clack
I’m surprised that difference is only about a win, especially since the drop of in OBP is so dramatic, but I guess that’s good news for us.
Maybe a solid Roy and Wandy can at least keep us out a ninety loss season.
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by DyingQuail on
Dec 21, 2008 7:04 PM CST
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well, the reason the difference is so small is that Wiggy's subtraction...
is partially offset by Tejada, Pence, and Bourne improvements. All of those improvements are modest but they add up.
by clack on
Dec 21, 2008 9:08 PM CST
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RE: Unless something unexpected happens
Like the Astros announce that they’re signing Tex to play 3B…
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by DyingQuail on
Dec 21, 2008 7:32 PM CST
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it turns out that there is a “secret clause” in Sabathia’s contract that brings him to Houston
by Only_A_Lad on
Dec 21, 2008 8:04 PM CST
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There’s a secret clause in A-Rod’s contract that sends both of them to Houston…for the league minimum.
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by DyingQuail on
Dec 21, 2008 8:21 PM CST
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Carlos Beltran’s Mets contract was just a ruse. It was like that ending scene in the Dark Knight, where Batman lets everyone hate him for the greater good. So Beltran signed this weird contract back in 2005 that sent him to New York for four years, but now the secret option kicks in and he comes back to Houston. He had to sign that contract because Drayton needed a reason to fire Hunsicker, because Hunsicker was a secret robot-mutant-vampire-Nazi from hell.
by Only_A_Lad on
Dec 21, 2008 8:27 PM CST
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So what were Bogusevic's projections? (They weren't included in the excel file)
If Bogusevic proves to be an improvement, offensively, the question is if that outweighs whatever is lost from benching Bourn’s defense. Because, unless Pence just totally collapses next season, I doubt he’ll be playing in right.
Of course, this is the organization that has played Lance Berkman and Craig Biggio in CF, so it’s not like defensively-challenged center-fielders are without precedent in MMP.
And, obviously, that assumes he’ll be called up at some point next year. Hopefully that happens. It’s not like the Astros have much to lose at this point. If nothing else, I imagine Towles, Sutton, Bogusevic, and maybe even Castro have decent chances next year, if only because the big-league club is going to suck so hard.
by Only_A_Lad on
Dec 21, 2008 8:24 PM CST
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You can find it by clicking Chone in the article...
Bogusevic: .271, .331, .400, .731
Also, that Chone page has “expanded” stats for Bogusevic linked to it. The line above is the expected value or 50th percentile.
If Bogusevic could put up a .731 OPS, and can play a tolerable CF, I would platoon him with Bourn. I haven’t seen him play the outfield. And we seem to get mixed signals from other observers as to whether he can play CF decently.
by clack on
Dec 21, 2008 9:07 PM CST
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What was I thinking?
Bogusevic is a LHB (yeah, we all know he was LHP). So, he really doesn’t fit a normal platoon with Bourn. However, this scenario could unfold: Bourn starts the season off poorly and Bogusevic begins his AAA season with a good start. If that happened, I could see Bogusevic replacing some of Bourn’s playing time, particularly if Bogusevic shows that he can play an acceptable CF.
by clack on
Dec 23, 2008 8:08 AM CST
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