The Astros in 2008: Their Scape Goats
A lot of things broke well for the Astros in 2008: Brian Moehler, Randy Wolf, LaTroy Hawkins, Ty Wigginton, Darin Erstad and the rest of the wise men, and Wesley Wright.
A few others didn't. In no particular order they were (be sure to click ahead and see the full pictorial essay before you vote):

Hurricane Ike, who's wind and rain put out the Astros white hot streak?

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Bud Selig? When not digging for nose candy, the man is a genius at selecting neutral sites for make up games.
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Michael Bourn? Nothing says scape goat like a sub .600 OPS.
JR Towles? Sure, this photo was a great moment, but not coming close to his incredible cup of coffee from last September sure hurt. His IBBWJD campaign will probably suffer, because at this rate he'll never see an IBB.
He hit better than Adam Everett and played great SS, but Miguel Tejada was also the highest paid Astro in 2008.
Oscar Villareal? He's still on the pay roll for 2009 and has to be on some sort of all time list for HR's allowed per inning.
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10-16 is a sure fire way to not make the playoffs.
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Cecil Cooper? His first half managing blunders were just a two and half month long migraine.
You could almost blame everything that's wrong with this organization on him, but is it right to do so?
Did I miss anyone/thing?
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And there has yet to be a clear scape goat identified.
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by DyingQuail on
Oct 29, 2008 1:40 AM CDT
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That's tough.
Ike: Bad luck, not worthy of a scapegoat.
Bud Selig: Prick. It was still only two games though (even though our momentum was dead. Dunno.
Bourn: Nup, only because he could redeem himself.
Towles: See above. Plus, neither of our other catcher exactly set the world on fire.
Tejada: Hit badly, cost us five guys but was great on D and a clubhouse leader, plus I’m hoping he can scrape together a 20HR/80RBI season next year.
Villareal: Suckage, suckage. Gave up runs like a fountain, bailed out with a guaranteed contract. Plus we gave up Josh Anderson who could’ve been up to replace Bourn. My vote.
June: Everyone goes through a bad stretch. We should’ve won several of those games (especially a couple of those I remember in Baltimore).
Coop: Got better as the season moved on, so he gets a pass.
Drayton: Done a lot of bad stuff in previous years, which isn’t worth scapegoating for just one season. Did approve the two deals that raised our hopes for a tantalizing moment.
by jonthefon on
Oct 29, 2008 3:26 AM CDT
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Your arguments
Have made me totally rethink my vote. I feel so bad about myself now for voting for Drayton. I didn’t realize how pissed I was at Villareal until I read it from you.
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by DyingQuail on
Oct 29, 2008 9:39 AM CDT
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I voted Selig just out of general principle.
I saw these quotes about Selig from anonymous Phillies players after the rain delay game…kinda sounds like something from the Astros’ clubhouse after Ike:
“That (expletive deleted) guy,” one pitcher said as he saw commissioner Bud Selig before walking out the back door of the clubhouse. “I wouldn’t let him supervise one of my (bowel movements). He has no clue. Not one (expletive deleted) clue.”
“(Expletive deleted),” one position player said in the direction of one television pausing only for a moment before leaving. “He’s a moron. How stupid can one person be?”
I’m surprised that you didn’t have the dynamic duo of Shawn Chacon and Ed Wade on the list of potential scapegoats. The confrontation/fight between those two seemed to be associated with that terrible stretch of June losses. The whole deal epitomized the perception of a dysfunctional clubhouse and the manager’s lack of control during the period.
by clack on
Oct 29, 2008 6:57 AM CDT
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Shawn Chacon
I think I avoided the story because I thought it was sooooooo stupid. Also, he was good while he was here, except for his last two starts. So we really got the best out of him and then he was sent packing. It’s just a shame we couldn’t win all the Quality Starts he threw. I guess I should have made the Astros offense behind Chacon a scape goat. That’s a least 3-4 games right there — CHRIST.
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by DyingQuail on
Oct 29, 2008 9:41 AM CDT
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I voted for Miggy
but, really, the scapegoat for the season should be Tim Purpura and Drayton McLane. Wade did what he could (and most of his moves – besides the Tejada deal – worked out), but the reason the Astros sucked most of the year is because of the terrible management that has gone on since 2005.
Oh, and Bronson Arroyo. Would have been nice to have El Burro hitting during that playoff run. Probably would have hit a line drive into Zambrano’s smarmy face during the first Milwaukee game.
by Only_A_Lad on
Oct 29, 2008 8:29 AM CDT
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Yeah, I’m comfortable going ahead and blaming Tim Purpura for another year or two. His handling of the draft and free agents in 2006 and 2007 really dug a huge hole for the Stros. I actually think that most of the people on this board could have handled the FA’s way better.
by AstroAndy on
Oct 29, 2008 9:53 AM CDT
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Timmy made mistakes
But Drayton never ponied up the cash and I’m sure leaned on him in a lot of ways. I now just file my Purpura animosity under Drayton McLane.
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by DyingQuail on
Oct 29, 2008 10:10 AM CDT
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Yeah, it's difficult to blame Purpura completely
because there is that general feeling that he was Drayton’s patsy, but we don’t know that. And, if nothing else, Ed Wade has been able to convince Drayton of the need for draft spending, so Timmy should have been able to, as well.
by Only_A_Lad on
Oct 29, 2008 10:13 AM CDT
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9 hours in
JR remains blameless.
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by DyingQuail on
Oct 29, 2008 9:37 AM CDT
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It’s not his fault that he was brought up too early. I’m convinced that, except for really special players, guys shouldn’t be brought up until they’ve had a chance to both struggle and figure out how to bust out of the slump in the high-minors (AA or AAA). The big club wasn’t where JR should have been learning that skill.
by AstroAndy on
Oct 29, 2008 9:56 AM CDT
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Well put.
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by DyingQuail on
Oct 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT
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I feel the same about Bourn
I’m hesitant to blame a player who has just been awful. If we expected little from them (or had little reason to expect much), then I don’t think we should blame them. Blame ultimately falls with the people who were supposed to get it done, but didn’t (Tejada), and the management that trotted Bourn and JR out there every day. I’m not going to blame Ausmus or Lane or Ensberg (shitty version) for poor hitting, I’m going to blame the guys who thought they could hit.
Besides, Bourn and JR could still improve.
by Only_A_Lad on
Oct 29, 2008 10:17 AM CDT
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On Thoughts that Michael Bourn Could Improve
Such ridiculous musings remind me of the old canard that the best example of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.
""The name of the game is hit the ball, catch the ball, and get the fuckin' job done." -- Lee Elia
by rastronomicals on
Oct 29, 2008 7:14 PM CDT
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hey, it's a possibility
Besides, what other options do we have? Just hope Bogusevic can play in the majors next season? Rely on Erstad?
But, yeah, he’ll probably always suck.
by Only_A_Lad on
Oct 29, 2008 9:18 PM CDT
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I'm pulling for Bourn
and for Towles
Towles may need only the winter to regroup mentally. Or alternatively, he’s done.
Bourn will hang around since he seems one click away and has great attitude.
I worry about Pence and Backe – both have a critical April for their careers.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on
Oct 29, 2008 9:24 PM CDT
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I have more optimism about Towles.
I think he is still a decent prospect. He is younger than Bourn, and has performed better in the minors than Bourn. I think Bourn can improve. I think he is better than what we saw in 08. Unfortunately, he can improve and still not be very good. I suspect that Bourn’s ceiling is as a platoon player and 4th outfielder. Hopefully, I’m wrong and he turns out to be an average hitting CFer.
by clack on
Oct 29, 2008 10:12 PM CDT
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If he could figure out the bunt
He could just be the next Willy T and worse things have happened to the club than that.
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by DyingQuail on
Oct 30, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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Why does there have to be a scape goat?
Why can’t we just leave it as the team wasn’t good enough?
Go 'Stros!
by Stros Bro on
Oct 29, 2008 11:55 AM CDT
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Because this is more entertaining
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by DyingQuail on
Oct 29, 2008 12:04 PM CDT
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Thanks
It’s amazing what one will do procrastinate.
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by DyingQuail on
Oct 29, 2008 1:21 PM CDT
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I've Ragged on His Ass All Year, Why Stop Now?
But the month of June did give me pause.
And now after I’ve already voted, I’m looking at Villareal.
Seeing that there were six losses where the number of runs he gave up was greater than or equal to the final score differential.
So if I’m gonna blame June, when we were six under, I can also blame Villareal, who was six under all by himself.
But I digress.
I’ve voted for Bourn, and I’m sticking to it. Suckitude like that extended well past six measly games.
""The name of the game is hit the ball, catch the ball, and get the fuckin' job done." -- Lee Elia
by rastronomicals on
Oct 29, 2008 6:58 PM CDT
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I voted Selig
I couln’t blame any of the on field people. I think Migeuel Tejada hurt the team a lot during a long stretch in late june and I forget whenit ended ; and hssi second half was poor until September. So he comes close.
I cannot blame McLane – after the rest of us had written the team off he okayed adding two pitchers that almost turned the team into a playoff team. Tht point was really brought homet me since I am in “Braves territory” and saw the Braves management give up on the season (And soon after so did the team). Braves and Astros were about in the same position when they suddenly took different paths to the last part of the season.
Hurrincane Ike hurt the Astros ; but the Astros were hurt even more by how Selig handled the situation. Forcing the Astros to play at all – not just the move to Milwaukee — beofe the payers had a chance to assess and phantom the situation in Houston and to their friends and families and tei rhomes – unti they kwew all were safe and had the essentials to be comfortable and safe until the players were out of town was inhumane. Teh plyers were not able to pay the games againteh Cubs. Becaause they still were in the dark about Houston when they traveled to Florida, they were not ready to play there either. If they had not played Milwauke they may have been emotionally ready to play in Florida. who knows.
Anyway, when I reflect back on the the season , My anger is aimed at Bud (I’m named after a beer company" Selig.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on
Oct 29, 2008 8:05 PM CDT
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I see most voters picked Selig too.
P.S. – The game 5 resumption is under much better conditons than its start. and so far both teams giving it their all. I’m in a much better mood about it thatn Ii was Monday night.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on
Oct 29, 2008 8:09 PM CDT
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