Booing in Baseball
This is just more of a topic starter, no real meat to this thread... but today after seeing Jennings give up 11 runs in 2/3's of an inning and then hearing the crowd boo him off the field, it just kind of bothered me. Maybe I'm a softy, but I just can't see any reason to boo your own team...
What do you think? Do you think it's ever acceptable to boo your own team? When? Why?
In my opinion, the only time I'm going to boo my own team, is if it's just a total lack of effort. Earlier in the season I would have boo'd Carlos Lee multiple times for not running out grounders or not hustling in the field. But I'd never boo him for doing poorly... maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just pent up frustration for the lack of production Jennings has had this year and the players we lost in the trade to get Jennings. Hell I don't know, just curious what you guys(and gals) think about the subject.
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I have sort of two sides to the issue
And while I may not boo, I may cuss you out, call you names, curse your existence, and wish you never wore this uniform. Is that really so much better? Because the player can't hear it?
On the flipside, I think you need to support your team and their players to the very end. While I might not be a fan of Burke, he is still my 25th favorite player who is playing baseball at this moment.
by saylinara on Jul 30, 2007 1:25 AM CDT 0 recs
You Would Rank Brian Moehler
My issue with Burke is that he's not all the team cracks him up to be, i.e., he wasn't a pick worthy of the first round, he wasn't ready to debut when he did in '04, he certainly isn't a centerfielder, or a future All-Star.
He's not all that much to get excited about.
But on the other hand, he IS a career Astro, he IS a product of our farm system, and he DID play a major part in the playoff run of the most successful team in franchise history.
I'd probably rank him 15th or so, I gotta think about it.
by rastronomicals on
Jul 30, 2007 7:05 AM CDT
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Yes, certainly.
by saylinara on
Jul 30, 2007 12:54 PM CDT
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I'm A Homer
But I do expect two things:
- give effort consistently and
- be prepared to play
by rastronomicals on Jul 30, 2007 7:07 AM CDT 0 recs
This topic may have...
What became apparent with Lidge is that the booing at home probably hurt his confidence. At some points in 06, I was glad when the Astros went on a road trip, because I figured Lidge had a better chance of resurrecting himself on the road, than at home. That, to me, is the most negative aspect of booing your team's players...it may actually harm their future ability to perform. One wonders how this will affect Jennings' future performance. I can bet that he will probably start hearing boos in his next start if he allows the first base runner to reach base. And that won't be helpful.
Richard Justice said that the booing was aimed at the whole Astros' organization--not just Jennings--because of the season, the trade, and Pupura. How he knows that, I don't know. The only thing I might have booed is Garner--for waiting so long to remove Jennings. There is a reason so few bad outings like this occur: managers don't wait until the game is 11-0 to remove a pitcher.
To the specific question, would I have booed Jennings? Probably not. It's not like he is trying to blow the game. Every indication is that he is making his best effort. In all liklihood he is pitching with an arm injury. He also had terrible defense behind him...making it a team loss too. But I admit that I'm not much on booing, in general. I reserve most of my boos for bad calls by the umpire.
by clack on Jul 30, 2007 8:45 AM CDT 0 recs
If JJ is pitching with
by bwhite2323 on
Jul 30, 2007 8:50 PM CDT
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Probably...
by clack on
Jul 30, 2007 9:45 PM CDT
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I understand the pressures to keep playing
He's overweight, rumored (strongly) to be out of shape, and pitching poorly. Probably won't get much more than a 3 year deal for $7 mil per. :-) Unless, of course, the Yankees take him.
by bwhite2323 on
Jul 31, 2007 9:10 AM CDT
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Booing
The booing was so bad, I just felt terrible for him.
I'm not sure you should boo your own team, especially if your hometown player is in distress like Jennings surely was.
The crowd was all keyed up to boo because each defensive error got a good round of boos too.
Right after Burke hit that 3-run homer, he slipped on trying to make that double play and he got a lot of boos.
That's baseball, I guess; one inning you're a hero and the next you're a screw-up!
by DeAnna on Jul 30, 2007 10:30 AM CDT 0 recs
I see both
by ReLaunch on Jul 30, 2007 11:29 AM CDT 0 recs
Don't disagree...
by clack on
Jul 30, 2007 12:23 PM CDT
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This comes closest to what I think.
I personally like spontaneous displays of both praise and displeasure at 'Stros games. For a long time, I've felt like Astros fans were still acting like the pre-programmed Astrodome crowds used to act - only making noise when the scoreboard told them to. It's only been in the past couple of years where I've seen widespread, spontaneous fan reactions that seemed like they arose from a real understanding of what was happening on the field, such as I've noticed in places like Wrigley or Busch.
by Austin Astroholic on
Jul 30, 2007 2:38 PM CDT
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Booing is OK
I can't imagine going to see the Astros play the Giants and not booing Barry, for example, who in my opinion represents the essence of all that is bad about baseball.
On the other side of the coin, it's perfectly OK to applaud for an opposing player or to cheer a great play made by the other team. Be warned though, it brings out boos from many sitting around you.
by bwhite2323 on Jul 30, 2007 12:00 PM CDT 0 recs
I'm all for booing Bonds/Pujols
by Stros Bro on
Jul 30, 2007 3:53 PM CDT
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See, That's What I Don't Get
He's a great player; while I would have difficulty cheering for him, I think the right approach there is to just stay silent.
by rastronomicals on
Jul 30, 2007 4:32 PM CDT
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Actually, maybe Beltran should be booed
by bwhite2323 on
Jul 30, 2007 8:52 PM CDT
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That's A Good One
I hadn't.
by rastronomicals on
Jul 30, 2007 9:39 PM CDT
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Did not know that
by bwhite2323 on
Jul 31, 2007 9:12 AM CDT
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booing
by charleythecougar on Jul 30, 2007 1:42 PM CDT 0 recs
if you get paid millions.
when people clearly don't care about preparing for a game (jennings), the stake of a player's psyche/confidence level (garner), the state of the team's future (purpura), or don't care about the product and just the dough received for putting said crappy product on the field and meddling in every bit of it (mclain)...they all deserved to be booed.
by mswank on Jul 30, 2007 4:50 PM CDT 0 recs
I don't usually boo players
I wouldn't have booed Jennings yesterday; I just don't see the point really. To each their own though.
by MG(vers. 2) on Jul 30, 2007 5:11 PM CDT 0 recs
Plus, there's context...
by Austin Astroholic on Jul 30, 2007 9:05 PM CDT 0 recs
I just don't think you boo your team
by TimStros on Jul 30, 2007 11:30 PM CDT 0 recs
No way. Never.
by entropic soul on Jul 31, 2007 1:54 AM CDT 0 recs
booing your own team is blasphemy....
COMPLETELY against booing your own team...
but really after 11 runs allowed in one inning- i would consider booing phil garner for leaving him that long in the first place. but i wouldnt actually do it... but i would definitely think about it...
seething inwardly is much better than being a jerk to your own team.
by tideturns on Jul 31, 2007 1:09 PM CDT 0 recs
Ensberg to Padres
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