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There may be no bigger fan of Larry Dierker anywhere than the one writing this blog entry, but can't say that I didn't have issues with some of the things he wrote in his latest blog entry for The Chronicle.

While he is able to discuss his pitching career with perfect candor, Dierker can be somewhat defensive at times about his managerial record, and it appears he may be engaging in some of this activity here.

What most jumps out at you is his statement that

Even if the Astros win the central division this year, they cannot consider it to be a good year
Hard to agree with that one. I'm not sure how we will consider the season if the Astros MISS the playoffs, but I guarantee you: make the playoffs, and 2006 will, when considered in retrospect, be marked a success. The struggles will be forgotten, the inspiring run will be magnified, and pundits across the globe will talk about the huge advantage a club brings if it has a Big Three at the head of their rotation.

Hell, I can hear 'em now.

Dierker goes on:

And the team made it to the World Series last year with less talent than several teams of recent vintatge including 1986, 1998, 1999 and 2001. In fact, the talent level on some of the recent teams that did not win the division was probably higher than that of last year's National League Champions
His point is probably valid, or at least partially so. Do any of you think that the '98 squad is the most talented they've ever seen wear the Astros colors? But the passage, more than anything else, appears self-serving to me, Dierker looks to be fighting to save some sort of legacy for the teams he piloted.

What's ironic as you read Dirk's piece is that none of it is necessary. Dierker in his five years, did an unqualified fantastic job as manager, turning a team that had become comfortable as quality also-rans into a winner.

He still has more playoff teams than any manager in Houston history. A team he skippered holds the franchise record for wins. Other than the immortal Salty Parker, who managed the club to a perfect 1.000 winning percentage in his one game as interim manager, Dierker has the highest career winning percentage of any manager in team history. And finally, Dirk's replacement was absolutely and inequivocally inferior to him in almost every respect you might take into account, which had fans reconsidering their harsh 2001 opinions of Dieker by as early as midseason 2003.

Larry Dierker has nothing to feel defensive about, in my most considered and humble opinion.

Speaking of quotes, I hate to say it, almost, but I was impressed by what Tony La Russa said when asked about the likelihood of Jason Marquis pitching at any time during whatever remains of the Cardinals season:

This is not a good time to ask because that was a disappointing performance. But I know he's disappointed, so I don't want to pile on him. There's a lot of piling on when somebody struggles or a team struggles.

I generally don't think a lot of La Russa' ingame decision making, but his dignified answer here scores points with me. Taking a step back as he does here rather than focussing on and dissecting the failure is the only way the Cardinals have any kind of chance to reverse their current slide.

Not that I think that it will do LaRussa any good; because that's right folks, I now think it's more likely that the Astros win the division than not.

Davenport's little robots have us at 28%, but that is much too low, I think. Not exactly sure what Davenport's methodology is, but seems to me, that it's absurd to pretend that the Cardinals and the Astros both go into their remaining games with a 50% chance of winning. Human nature being what it is, I think you have to recognize that it is going to be much more difficult for the Cards to win a game from here on out than the 'Stros.

Call me irrational or a pagan, but I honestly believe that. If you use .55 as the Astros' daily chance of winning, and .45 as the Cardinals--which I think are conservative values that may even understate the true situation--the Astros have basically one chance in six to run the table for their three games, and the Cardinals have 1 chance in 25 to run their four.

Right now, I think the game against San Fran for the Cards will absolutely go down, and I'm also inclined to believe that in it, the Cards will be playing to keep themselves alive, rather than to eliminate the Astros.

I also think they're likely to win that Giants game and fly into Houston for the division playoff on Tuesday, but let's cross that bridge when we get to it, no?

For now, let's keep that winning streak going:

Longest Win Streaks In Team History
Length
of Streak
Year Start Date End Date
12 2004 August 27 September 8
1999 September 3 September 14
10 1989 May 26 June 4
1980 August 14 August 24
1969 June 18 June 27
1969 May 17 May 28
1965 April 21 May 1
9 2006 September 20 September 28
1998 July 18 July 27
1991 July 28 August 6
1985 September 11 September 19
1984 August 10 August 19
1981 August 28 September 4
1973 April 26 May 7
1972 April 17 April 26
As you can see, no long win streak has started so late in the season. And if you're curious, the longest win streak for a Colt .45 team was 6 games, done several times.

Go Astros!

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Red Sox fan here
I've been trying to decide who to root for in the playoffs this year and hearing about the Astros' run from afar is really inspiring.  I hope they make it in; if they can keep hot, it seems like they have a great chance to go very far.  

As an aside, Davenport's little robots do not account for anything like momentum; there are a couple different variations (PECOTA and ELO based) but the original just derives an expected winning percentage as a regression of the actual one back toward the mean, and also accounts for home field advantage.  Then it stochastically simulates the remaining schedule a million times and returns the frequency with which teams qualified for the post-season.  So the only way the Cards' skid or the Astros' run matters is in the starting point and in the small effect it has on the current winning % (very small at this point in the season).  So yeah, I'd say their chances are a lot better than 28% right now.  

by poludamas on Sep 29, 2006 2:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Streaks
A factoid about the 10-game streak in 1989...

That was actually part of a 16 for 17 run.

Game 9 of the streak was the Saturday night 22-inning affair, and game 10 was a Sunday afternoon 13-inning job. The Sunay game started an hour late because they delayed the game a bit so players could get a bit of sleep.

Monday they brought Mark Portugal up from AAA and lost. Tuesday they started a six-game streak.

by rbs10025 on Sep 29, 2006 3:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe this isn't the place for it
but i want to say that the Cards are really getting run through the wash in the media for this whole choke thing.  i think it's a little misguided, and a little unfair.  sure, they're going on an aweful run, and blowing this kinda lead is pretty unprecidented, but it's not like they're a great team that fell apart at the last minute.  they're a lousy team in a lousy division, where another team that's been playing lousy ball snapped into an unprecidented win streak that makes their pedestrian play look catestrophic.  in any other year where 95-100 wins is required to win the Central, this is just a late season collapse by a poor team, struck with bad fortune in the form of injuries and career low perforances from key players.  it's a sidenote to other teams around the league that are actually playing well down the stretch.  but because they were in the lead in this laughable division, it becomes a story.

i kinda feel bad for them.  not in a i'd like them to pull out of it kinda way, but in a they're not going to be deserving of the treatment they'll get kinda way.  there are a lot of teams around the league we can point and laugh at for sucking, but just cause the Cards fooled everybody into thinking that they were playoff bound, just cause the rest of the division stunk, they don't deserve to get thrown under the bus like this.  let's laugh at the Cubs instead.

by littlevisigoth on Sep 29, 2006 5:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Personally...
I can't say I disagree w/ much of what he said. I went into reading the article expecting to (cuz I disagree w/ him a lot!)

I do, however, think he ignores how ridiculously talented the pitching is on this team. And that that's why this team has been more successful in the post-season.

by StrosDux on Sep 29, 2006 5:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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